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"King of the Cannibals": How Sam Altman Took over Silicon Valley

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Re: "King of the Cannibals": How Sam Altman Took over Silicon Valley

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Post by throw310822 »

dbspin wrote: post #26
pixelatedindex wrote: post #9

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Altman's sister's 'memories' of abuse were developed in adulthood [1]. Recovered memories are deeply suspect, and a number of serious miscarriages of justice have happened because of them. Most infamously the 'satanic panic' trials of the eighties and early nineties. Elizabeth Loftus has done lots of good work on the dubious nature of eyewitness testimony, and recovered memories in particular [3]. Essentially, they'r…

> Recovered memories are deeply suspect, [...] especially when 'recovered' decades later during psychotherapy.

> This goes back to Freud's original sin - not believing the direct accounts of family sexual abuse from his female patients, and instead perceiving them as fantasies.

I can't understand how these two statements are not contradictory, could you elaborate?

Re: "King of the Cannibals": How Sam Altman Took over Silicon Valley

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Post by andai »

tptacek wrote: post #70

There's nothing in here you haven't already heard: * He's close with Peter Thiel * He's an ace networker (but, completing the stereotype, is also an introvert) * He left YC, not entirely voluntarily, because he was too committed to OpenAI to do the YC job * Echoing YC, the OpenAI board tried to oust him over concerns that he was being manipulative and pursuing outside interests (a chip firm) that conflicted with the…

> It feels like people are a bit obsessive about this guy.

AI is about to take over the world (for better or worse), and this is the guy in charge of building it.

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Post by tptacek »

andai wrote: post #75
tptacek wrote: post #70

There's nothing in here you haven't already heard: * He's close with Peter Thiel * He's an ace networker (but, completing the stereotype, is also an introvert) * He left YC, not entirely voluntarily, because he was too committed to OpenAI to do the YC job * Echoing YC, the OpenAI board tried to oust him over concerns that he was being manipulative and pursuing outside interests (a chip firm) that conflicted with the…

> It feels like people are a bit obsessive about this guy. AI is about to take over the world (for better or worse), and this is the guy in charge of building it.

Seems to me there are a lot of people in charge of building it.

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Post by mcpackieh »

dbspin wrote: post #26
pixelatedindex wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Altman's sister's 'memories' of abuse were developed in adulthood [1]. Recovered memories are deeply suspect, and a number of serious miscarriages of justice have happened because of them. Most infamously the 'satanic panic' trials of the eighties and early nineties. Elizabeth Loftus has done lots of good work on the dubious nature of eyewitness testimony, and recovered memories in particular [3]. Essentially, they'r…

So let me get this straight, your training as a psychoanalyst qualifies you to discredit a woman's testimony, despite you never having met with her? How wonderful.

By the way, have you read this?

> Today, the American Psychiatric Association (APA) reiterates its continued and unwavering commitment to the ethical principle known as "The Goldwater Rule." We at the APA call for an end to psychiatrists providing professional opinions in the media about public figures whom they have not examined, whether it be on cable news appearances, books, or in social media. Armchair psychiatry or the use of psychiatry as a political tool is the misuse of psychiatry and is unacceptable and unethical.

https://www.psychiatry.org/newsroom/news-releases/apa-calls-...

Re: "King of the Cannibals": How Sam Altman Took over Silicon Valley

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Post by Pasorrijer »

andai wrote: post #75
tptacek wrote: post #70

There's nothing in here you haven't already heard: * He's close with Peter Thiel * He's an ace networker (but, completing the stereotype, is also an introvert) * He left YC, not entirely voluntarily, because he was too committed to OpenAI to do the YC job * Echoing YC, the OpenAI board tried to oust him over concerns that he was being manipulative and pursuing outside interests (a chip firm) that conflicted with the…

> It feels like people are a bit obsessive about this guy. AI is about to take over the world (for better or worse), and this is the guy in charge of building it.

And last year, crypto was going to take over the world.

I'm skeptical of yet another, extremely computationally expensive aspirational technique.

Re: "King of the Cannibals": How Sam Altman Took over Silicon Valley

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Post by andai »

rjzzleep wrote: post #60
tilne wrote: post #24

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This sounds like snark but it’s not intended to be: do you really need sources to learn narrative control? Perceiving how narratives work seems to be a skill that almost all humans are very good at naturally. I acknowledge that shaping narratives is a different skill set (especially the parts that require putting yourself in a position to shape narratives effectively), but in my opinion if you’re already asking the q…

I get the point, but the reality is that this goes way beyond business communication. And yes, given enough time almost anyone can learn almost anything, but we're also human with limited time and it simply makes no sense trying to learn everything from scratch. You gotta know when to ask people that are experts in their respective fields.

Not exactly what you asked but I think the same approach would work: I set the intention to gain insight into how stories work. This intention alone was sufficient to massively increase my abilities in this area, because during "idle time" my brain would mull over / analyze stories I'd heard recently.

So I think for PR or whatever the same thing would work, simply deciding to become skilled in this area and you will naturally begin to pick up the patterns already present in your reality.

Re: "King of the Cannibals": How Sam Altman Took over Silicon Valley

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Post by zug_zug »

tptacek wrote: post #70

There's nothing in here you haven't already heard: * He's close with Peter Thiel * He's an ace networker (but, completing the stereotype, is also an introvert) * He left YC, not entirely voluntarily, because he was too committed to OpenAI to do the YC job * Echoing YC, the OpenAI board tried to oust him over concerns that he was being manipulative and pursuing outside interests (a chip firm) that conflicted with the…

Thanks, the "took over silicon valley" sounded a lot like link bait or potentially a puff piece. Saved me a click.
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