FWIW I need a Kanban board view from a note-taking app, am using extensions which add one to Obsidian and vscode.
What are your typical workflow when you use Kanban extension in Obsidian vs the one in VSCode? Do you use the former to manager personal tasks, while the latter for coding tasks?
A structured note-taking app for personal use
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Re: A structured note-taking app for personal use
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Why would I do that? I use only apps that use text files anyways. I am pretty confident I will be able to open them in 30 years.
My point is that I sincerely doubt that these notes will have any usefulness in 30 years.
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What are your typical workflow when you use Kanban extension in Obsidian vs the one in VSCode? Do you use the former to manager personal tasks, while the latter for coding tasks?
It's actually just that I'm in the process of moving from Obsidian to vscode in general. (Lack of a mobile version of vscode is a problem though!)
I thought Foam would be great, b/c I already wrote lots of Markdown in VSCode, but Obsidian was much better for me.
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Same here, but other side of the chasm. I use logseq for note keeping but I just want the text editing experience of vs code. I'm not sure why they all roll their own editor. Can't it be a plugin?
I tried Dendron, and I preferred to have a fully separate editor. This way I context switch completely away from code. Also it annoying to swap workspaces and keep the up.
I can see how having the environment be at least cosmetically different might help though. I feel like there must be a good enough solution to that, I'll have a poke around
Re: A structured note-taking app for personal use
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> Obsidian plus a few plugins beats Joplin on every level. Not really. Obsidian has its shares of problems too, and most of them originate from using Markdown. Markdown is a freeform text-format, and works very well for writing text, but it really sucks for data and structured content. Most plugins and features in that area are very brittle and overspecialized, working only well enough in their specific use case. And…
> Not really. Obsidian has its shares of problems too, and most of them originate from using Markdown. Aha. Which problems do you mean? > Markdown is a freeform text-format, and works very well for writing text, but it really sucks for data and structured content. Joplin is using md to. And if Joplin does a good job on "data" and "structured content" (whatever you mean by that) by separating that in their DB, it's a…
The way it's handled can make the difference in control.
> by separating that in their DB, it's a big NO for me since it's a closed silo.
Joplin is using a popular open database with a healthy community and good tooling. It's as open as markdown. Maybe not for you, when you lack the knowledge, but markdown is similar closed for anyone not understanding filesystems and editors.
> This: https://github.com/blacksmithgu/obsidian-dataview works so wonderful for me
Good for you, but that is very low level in terms of data-handling. Dataview is really just an elaborated search, there is no good level of interaction. Datacore, the next project of the Dataview is supposed to bring this, but it's not even usable yet AFAIK. Coincidental, the Obsidian-devs are also working on that front, but nothing is finished yet.
> https://github.com/denolehov/obsidian-git and b) easy to fix since it's a text file. Gosh!
That's useless when the app itself is not working. And even worse if you are not realizing the errors early.
> Aha. I don't think so. Which authority says that?
My own experience. I've tested enough plugins over the years to know their dark corners.
> And even if It's like that, my markdown files would survive everything
The thing is, technically you are not even having proper markdown, but a fork with some extensions of Obsidian. So some features of your parts might break when switching away from Obsidian. And the reason for all this is also because markdown is lacking definitions for what obsidian-people are doing with it. Coincidentally, this seems also one of the reasons why Joplin is using a database.
> And gosh, this is a good thing!
Not if they all suck.
> Installing multiple task plugins shows that something is "broke" on the user side.
Sure, because the plugins are lacking features, its the users fault... Maybe some users have just very different levels of requirements from you.
Re: A structured note-taking app for personal use
#136The best note taking app ever made by far is called verbatim and was built originally for the competitive debate community. It’s so good that people who watched me use it in college were jealous at the power it enables within Microsoft word for structured notes. https://paperlessdebate.com/verbatim/
Re: A structured note-taking app for personal use
#137Nice going. I've gone through quite the list of note taking tools from a bunch of unorganized text files, to Microsoft OneNote, to Evernote before it became a total pile of molten garbage, Logseq, and finally settled on Obsidian. There's a healthy ecosystem of plug-ins, searching is highly performant, all of my files are just structured in folders as markdown files so there's zero vendor lock-in, has a very good mobi…
Re: A structured note-taking app for personal use
#138Re: A structured note-taking app for personal use
#139Don't put any real data in the hosted demo. The database credentials are leaked in the .env file.
Re: A structured note-taking app for personal use
#140Earlier quoted context omitted.
My point is that I sincerely doubt that these notes will have any usefulness in 30 years.
Depends on which notes you take. I still have academic notes from 15 years ago that are useful.