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Re: Flare, a video sharing site built on Nostr

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Post by jgilias »

cesarvarela wrote: post #159
alkonaut wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's so off putting I wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole. I wouldn't even curiously browse a landing page of an otherwise interesting project beyond the point I notice that something is mildly "cryptocurrency-adjacent", or it becomes obvious that it has involvement from devs who also enjoy working on blockchains. Thanks for the heads up.

Can I ask why? Beyond the "crypto grift," a blockchain-based social network might offer some benefits: - permissionless - (no moderation) - means for auto solvency - (we are not the product) - interoperability - (multiple clients, forks, etc.) - privacy

And the joke’s in the fact that Nostr is not even blockchain based. It’s basically Bitcoin devs’ response to the whole Web3 thing demonstrating that you don’t need a blockchain and a shitcoin to have a decentralized, permission-less, censorship resistant social network.

Re: Flare, a video sharing site built on Nostr

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Post by jazzyjackson »

jgilias wrote: post #56
Retr0id wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not sure why you're getting downvoted here. In any other context, "paste in the private key that your identity is irrevocably bound to" would get you laughed out of the room. It seems to be the default nostr UX nonetheless, and that's worthy of note. I am aware of efforts to improve on this though, for example https://snort.social/e/note1crl44xk24yc2ym5xlyyfjdeumxueyguz... - essentially the equivalent of a custod…

He’s getting downvoted because that’s a solved problem in the wider crypto-space. To log in you sign a message using your hardware wallet. Nostr hasn’t grown up to that yet, and pointing out that pasting private keys is a bad idea is fair game. But implying that public private key cryptography can’t be used to log into web apps is just silly given that value worth billions is being moved around daily using such web a…

the wider crypto space still has no empathy for normies. if you can't somehow recover or rotate your password, it's a nonstarter by virtue of being a worse UX

Re: Flare, a video sharing site built on Nostr

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Post by jazzyjackson »

skinkestek wrote: post #13
prmoustache wrote: post #9

So how will you cope with DMCA takedown requests and what will you do when all major medias companies will sue your ass? You may try to pretend it is not your content and explain how the protocol works and all that but as long as you will host a frontend and own the domain name you will be considered the one to sue.

How does Bitcoin cope with the fact that the DVD key (and probably a few other interesting things) are stored on the blockchain?

because "bitcoin.com" isn't running the blockchain, responsibility is diffused. OPs point is even with distributed infrastructure, the portal serving end users has a name and address attached so legal departments know who to serve.

Re: Flare, a video sharing site built on Nostr

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Post by kinakomochidayo »

jasode wrote: post #12
bagels wrote: post #5

How is the infrastructure and bandwidth paid for?

>How is the infrastructure and bandwidth paid for? For bandwidth intensive usage such as video, it will probably be "paid relays" instead of free ones. Click on url in the "Popular paid relays" paragraph to see examples: https://nostr.how/en/relays Nostr is popular with the cryptocurrency community so the payment mechanics seem to favor Bitcoin and/or Bitcoin Lightning.

Nostr is only popular with Bitcoin maxis. Nobody else cares about Nostr.

Re: Flare, a video sharing site built on Nostr

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Post by kinakomochidayo »

irusensei wrote: post #2

Makes me wonder if LBRY went with Lightning instead of creating a shitcoin token they would probably still be around today and maybe even integrating with Nostr.

Naw, because LN non-custodial UX sucks, and custodial wallets are being disabled in the US.

Re: Flare, a video sharing site built on Nostr

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Post by poulpy123 »

bogwog wrote: post #83
smcleod wrote: post #57

The sites design is very aesthetically pleasing, well done on that front. Something that put me off a bit was immediately seeing bitcoin influencer content after loading the page.

That's the reason I personally avoid Nostr. I know it's unfair because Nostr itself is actually a cool protocol that has nothing to do with bitcoin, but the stench of that is hard to wash off. I wouldn't want to build something that becomes associated with bitcoin just because of the name of the protocol. It's like whenever there was a reddit/twitter/etc alternative some years ago following outrage, it'd get flooded…

I had a look at some nostr apps, and I was extremely impressed by the speed and the fact that even decentralised it seems that all nodes are integrated (not like mastodon). But I can't get over the bitcoin scam everywhere

Re: Flare, a video sharing site built on Nostr

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Post by npoc »

poulpy123 wrote: post #188
bogwog wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's the reason I personally avoid Nostr. I know it's unfair because Nostr itself is actually a cool protocol that has nothing to do with bitcoin, but the stench of that is hard to wash off. I wouldn't want to build something that becomes associated with bitcoin just because of the name of the protocol. It's like whenever there was a reddit/twitter/etc alternative some years ago following outrage, it'd get flooded…

I had a look at some nostr apps, and I was extremely impressed by the speed and the fact that even decentralised it seems that all nodes are integrated (not like mastodon). But I can't get over the bitcoin scam everywhere

In what way is bitcoin a scam, and gold isn't?

Re: Flare, a video sharing site built on Nostr

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Post by npoc »

kinakomochidayo wrote: post #184
jasode wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>How is the infrastructure and bandwidth paid for? For bandwidth intensive usage such as video, it will probably be "paid relays" instead of free ones. Click on url in the "Popular paid relays" paragraph to see examples: https://nostr.how/en/relays Nostr is popular with the cryptocurrency community so the payment mechanics seem to favor Bitcoin and/or Bitcoin Lightning.

Nostr is only popular with Bitcoin maxis. Nobody else cares about Nostr.

Its popular with people who understand the importance of decentralisation
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