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Re: A structured note-taking app for personal use

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Post by fauigerzigerk »

laurent123456 wrote: post #52
fauigerzigerk wrote: post #33

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>incredibly polite disagreement Not sure I agree. Here's one comment by the developer (laurent): "Ok, there's so much wrong in what you write about that it's hard to know where to start. I guess it would help if you had a clue about what you're talking about." https://discourse.joplinapp.org/t/why-im-leaving-joplin-for-...

I'm not proud of that answer but to be fair there are also more balanced views in this thread. It's also an old thread and some of what's in there is no longer relevant. For example someone recently created a prototype of the app that saves the notes to disk, and although we can't merge his work as it is, we plan to investigate and see whether it can be somehow integrated. It's one of these features that, all things…

I completely understand. It wasn't my intention to blow this out of proportion. It's a single expression of frustration that every developer can relate to.

Re: A structured note-taking app for personal use

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Post by manyty »

smusamashah wrote: post #74

This looks very similar to Logseq. I would go as far as calling it a clone because the main page looks almost exactly the same. Logseq has matured a lot over the years, what is PenX doing better than Logseq? From the demo it feels like it's still behind Logseq a lot.

+1 and curious, too

I would go further than that also. It directly mirrors https://anytype.io/ but without the desktop or mobile clients to actually store the workspace on your device.

Re: A structured note-taking app for personal use

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Post by Ringz »

tovej wrote: post #61
Ringz wrote: post #14

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Since Joplin's developer decided to put all Markdown files into a database and thus give up all the advantages of a flat file system, I have uninstalled Joplin. In my view, the last discussion in Joplin's forum on this topic further discredited the developer.

Well, if what you need is a flat file system, the json-as-database approach that penx is taking isn't really an improvement. I'm interested in what advantages you have lost. Joplin allows you to export your entire notebook as a directory of markdown files (with front matter), and from a performance, reliability, and replication perspective, a database seems like a much better choice.

I won a lot and didn't lose anything. Obsidian plus a few plugins beats Joplin on every level. And I can edit all notes without redundancy by exporting from a Joplin database with nvim, iA Writer, find, grep, cat and millions of other tools.

Re: A structured note-taking app for personal use

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Post by darkwater »

fauigerzigerk wrote: post #33
burnished wrote: post #25

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That seems an odd take given the content of the discussion: https://discourse.joplinapp.org/t/why-im-leaving-joplin-for-... Especially since it looks like a solution via plugin was identified? Thanks for bringing it up though, I went for spicy programmer drama but instead found a somewhat interesting and incredibly polite disagreement. I am curious about what happened that they have such a solid opinion about accepta…

>incredibly polite disagreement Not sure I agree. Here's one comment by the developer (laurent): "Ok, there's so much wrong in what you write about that it's hard to know where to start. I guess it would help if you had a clue about what you're talking about." https://discourse.joplinapp.org/t/why-im-leaving-joplin-for-...

I applause Laurent's answer. I'm so tired of self-entitled users that don't contribute anything and have no skin in the game and just complain "this should be done as I say because I'm smart". Yes, obviously sometimes maintainer can get something bad and a better solution is easily available, but as app complexity goes up, it's unfair (to not say naive or a worse word) for users assume that developers are clueless and hadn't thought about the problem space before taking the design decision.

Re: A structured note-taking app for personal use

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Post by remram »

poulpy123 wrote: post #35
anticrymactic wrote: post #26

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Obsidian + Syncthing

I found syncthing lost severals of my changes . I settled on the live sync plugin and for the moment it works nicely

Thanks for the pointer!

https://github.com/vrtmrz/obsidian-livesync: self-hostable sync via CouchDB, MIT license, supports the visual conflict resolver and end-to-end encryption.

Re: A structured note-taking app for personal use

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Post by ParetoOptimal »

jddj wrote: post #54
Vingdoloras wrote: post #50

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How does Obsidian's text editing experience compare to VSCode? I'm using VSC for everything at the moment, which includes a workspace roughly structured into GTD categories via subfolders, filled with markdown documents. The only thing that keeps me curious about Obsidian is the note linking/network visualization and features related to that. But I'm so used to having dev tool levels of text editing available in VSC…

Same here, but other side of the chasm. I use logseq for note keeping but I just want the text editing experience of vs code. I'm not sure why they all roll their own editor. Can't it be a plugin?

Seeing vscode users want their knowledge base in their editor makes me think of the parallel to emacs users.

Re: A structured note-taking app for personal use

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Post by remram »

Der_Einzige wrote: post #56

The best note taking app ever made by far is called verbatim and was built originally for the competitive debate community. It’s so good that people who watched me use it in college were jealous at the power it enables within Microsoft word for structured notes. https://paperlessdebate.com/verbatim/

Why do you think so?

Does it sync between devices? Does it work on mobile at all?

Re: A structured note-taking app for personal use

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Post by southernplaces7 »

The fundamental question for me is about privacy. Good, well-created note-taking apps abound these days, but few really promise and deliver solid privacy that even their creators cant breach. One need not be taking notes on "howz to makez bombez 101" to value nobody being able to snoop their notes at will.

Re: A structured note-taking app for personal use

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Post by tuffff »

Vingdoloras wrote: post #50
vunderba wrote: post #21

Nice going. I've gone through quite the list of note taking tools from a bunch of unorganized text files, to Microsoft OneNote, to Evernote before it became a total pile of molten garbage, Logseq, and finally settled on Obsidian. There's a healthy ecosystem of plug-ins, searching is highly performant, all of my files are just structured in folders as markdown files so there's zero vendor lock-in, has a very good mobi…

How does Obsidian's text editing experience compare to VSCode? I'm using VSC for everything at the moment, which includes a workspace roughly structured into GTD categories via subfolders, filled with markdown documents. The only thing that keeps me curious about Obsidian is the note linking/network visualization and features related to that. But I'm so used to having dev tool levels of text editing available in VSC…

There is a Vim plugin for Obsidian, so for me the editing is pretty similar. And I guess it's a good indicator that a plugin for your taste may also exist.

For actual coffee editing, there is also https://github.com/sunxvming/obsidian-vscode-editor

Re: A structured note-taking app for personal use

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Post by NicuCalcea »

Vingdoloras wrote: post #50
vunderba wrote: post #21

Nice going. I've gone through quite the list of note taking tools from a bunch of unorganized text files, to Microsoft OneNote, to Evernote before it became a total pile of molten garbage, Logseq, and finally settled on Obsidian. There's a healthy ecosystem of plug-ins, searching is highly performant, all of my files are just structured in folders as markdown files so there's zero vendor lock-in, has a very good mobi…

How does Obsidian's text editing experience compare to VSCode? I'm using VSC for everything at the moment, which includes a workspace roughly structured into GTD categories via subfolders, filled with markdown documents. The only thing that keeps me curious about Obsidian is the note linking/network visualization and features related to that. But I'm so used to having dev tool levels of text editing available in VSC…

You should have a look at Foam: https://github.com/foambubble/foam
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