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Re: Hyperloop One to shut down

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Post by adolph »

dougmwne wrote: post #201
standardUser wrote: post #195

I think we should accept that, at least in the case of the US, most future transit infrastructure will be built on existing roads. Every other options is an order of magnitude more expensive. Plus, we have so many roads! If we didn't use them it the most inefficient way possible - cramming them full of giants cars for single people who also happen to be terrible pilots - we could get a ton of bandwidth out of them. A…

I’ve slowly lost my innocence when it comes to public transportation in the US. At this point I can see that 95% of the country is absolutely locked into low-density single occupancy transportation at least till we invent sky cars. We have trillions in sunk cost that covers nearly every road, every home and every business in America. We will never, ever be Europe.

Sky cars will allow for even lower density occupancy, no?

Re: Hyperloop One to shut down

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Post by Veedrac »

mynameisnoone wrote: post #189
qingcharles wrote: post #179

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Channel Tunnel was attempted in the 1800s and failed. A hundred years later they tried again and succeeded. So...

Apples and oranges false equivocation of vastly different engineering problems. The problem with vacuum trains is they aren't workable with current materials, are impractical, and are too damn expensive. https://youtu.be/RNFesa01llk

Thunderf00t has made a brand on putting out anti-Musk videos of generally terrible accuracy; he is probably not someone you should be sourcing. He is just as harsh about SpaceX and has been for a long, long time. He's just as harsh on Tesla. I know of thorough debunks of his factual claims in the space sector, eg. ‘Phil Mason Does Not Understand Space’, and I've watched some of the SpaceX videos and think that undersells how bad they are.

Of course, reversed stupidity is not intelligence, this isn't evidence that hyperloop is good, just a suggestion to choose a better source for your arguments.

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Post by hughesjj »

alangibson wrote: post #142
thechao wrote: post #12

There is a world where we dig tunnels under federal highways, and stick freight trucks down there. They'd run on a monorail, at 120+ mph. Surface vehicles would be dramatically limited in terms of height, width, and length. Maybe people buses could go down there? In my imagination these tunnels are, like, 200' down. Like mole people.

Why do people keep trying to invent more expensive, less traffic dense railroads. Did they stop teaching arithmetic in school?

The more I see how shitty developers are about recognizing prior art the more I realize why so many planners are shitty about recognizing prior art

Being intelligent yet humble isn't mutually exclusive, but I see a lot of elitism in that 'oh I have this concept which must be totally novel and I'm gonna implement it now' with engineering at large before we all start laughing at their inevitable failures from things they could have learned in the past. Crypto is cool, even cryptocurrency. 99.9% of people in the space though have no idea what they're doing with it. I still think it could be useful for voting and/or DNS for distributed consensus, the cryptocurrency aspect could be improved and already is a better backend imo than our batched out wire transfers with traditional banking (but it lags well behind credit cards or cash for point of sale transactions), and hell merkel trees are supremely useful already for supply chain or ex version control, but the hype and path of crypto currencies is an embarrassment in light of history.

Recent examples:

- mastodon and the fediverse in relation to the threads backlash

- cryptocurrency markets and the desire for regulation for when things go wrong (someone stole my coinz! My smart contract was exploited! My exchange was hacked! Fraud!)... Like it was speed running what the Netherlands+UK+us faced over 400 years in a period of 4 years

- any libertarian when they start to run their own government (sorry grandpa)

-- https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kansas_experiment

-- https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_State_Project

Re: Hyperloop One to shut down

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Post by bombcar »

strictnein wrote: post #136
bombcar wrote: post #132

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I guess you’re supposed to reenact the space whale scene from treasure planet.

An absolute gem of a movie. Didn't see it until I had kids and it was one of the few movies that I didn't get tired of rewatching again and again with them.

It really is one of the top-tier movies and it’s quite sad it didn’t get the recognition it deserves.

Re: Hyperloop One to shut down

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Post by hughesjj »

askonomm wrote: post #121
korse wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Contrarian take, but tons of truck traffic on interstate highways makes driving far more fun (as long as there isn't road maintenance or undue stoppage). I'm actually looking forward to future me being able to ride my motorcycle around a freight-train's worth of semi-automated cargo-haulers on interstates that are mostly devoid of vacationing families.

To each their own, but as a fellow motorcycle rider myself, I absolutely shit myself around huge trucks that won't be able to even see me.

With all this expensive AF gear it's humbling to know that a single tire can still end me quick enough I wouldn't even know it happened.... In the best case.

Re: Hyperloop One to shut down

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Post by NewsyHacker »

Der_Einzige wrote: post #245
iampims wrote: post #228

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Roads safe for cycling is half the battle. The other half is around zoning and mixing residential with businesses.

Legalize biking on the sidewalk nationwide. I don’t want to bike on the road for any reason. Bikers have far far lower chances of hurting pedestrians than cars do of bikers.

That might work in highly urban areas, but suburban USA is notorious for sidewalks that end suddenly, forcing a cyclist to return to the road. And sometimes that involves dropping off a curb and then later having to get the bike back up a curb.

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Post by hughesjj »

thfuran wrote: post #152
trhway wrote: post #134

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Why go underground (expensive 3rd dimension down) when we have the whole 3rd dimension up almost unused? The freight can be trucked by large Zeppelins for example (and electric at that with the most of the energy generated by the solar panels covering the upper surface of the Zeppelin https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38017937 ). The issues are pure engineering ones. These freight Zeppelins can be fully automated,…

A train car carries about a kiloton of cargo. How many zeppelins would that take? Edit: Actually, I can't count. Only a few hundred thousand pounds. That's still probably a bunch of zeppelinworths though.

It's actually fairly easy logistically imo

Design the Zeppelin for literal tons of ballast, trade out sandbags/dirtbags for product or waste on docking, andaybe add an aerodynamic shield if you don't care about speed as much

We already sacrifice significant speed for boats, but I grant they're several orders of magnitude better at balancing buoyancy with cargo given they flot in the water rather than atmosphere

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Post by hughesjj »

kevingadd wrote: post #101
thechao wrote: post #12

There is a world where we dig tunnels under federal highways, and stick freight trucks down there. They'd run on a monorail, at 120+ mph. Surface vehicles would be dramatically limited in terms of height, width, and length. Maybe people buses could go down there? In my imagination these tunnels are, like, 200' down. Like mole people.

Seattle has some underground light rail tunnels that are shared with buses

I really wish the link stopped at the old 9th Ave stop to connect with busses

Less now that I've moved out of premiere on line, but still

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Post by adverbly »

yuliyp wrote: post #126
thechao wrote: post #12

There is a world where we dig tunnels under federal highways, and stick freight trucks down there. They'd run on a monorail, at 120+ mph. Surface vehicles would be dramatically limited in terms of height, width, and length. Maybe people buses could go down there? In my imagination these tunnels are, like, 200' down. Like mole people.

That sounds like railroads but worse. What's the advantage? Tunneling is incredibly expensive to do, yet you're proposing it in a situation where it'd need enough coverage so as to ban large freight transport over roads.

Some advantages:

- no impact on environment, birds, bugs, animals, trees, etc...

- can use surface land for other things

- no weather exposure

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Post by quantified »

Der_Einzige wrote: post #245
iampims wrote: post #228

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Roads safe for cycling is half the battle. The other half is around zoning and mixing residential with businesses.

Legalize biking on the sidewalk nationwide. I don’t want to bike on the road for any reason. Bikers have far far lower chances of hurting pedestrians than cars do of bikers.

As a bicyclist: no.

The problem is the disparity of speed between travelers, same as for a highway. Pedestrians appear suddenly or don't know about your sudden appearance or intended motions, and pain or injury results.

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