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A. They aren't comparing it to rubbing alcohol. The analogy is that they are both alcohol so they are the same right? Obviously not. B. I've tried meth. It's nothing like Adderall and much, much more potent.
> The analogy is that they are both alcohol so they are the same right? Obviously not. They are the same. The difference is just that the bottle sold as "rubbing alcohol" has been intentionally poisoned.
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This is the weirdest, worst take I've read today. Yes, meth can be sold by prescription in the US. Why you think that's relevant to a Mexican pharmacy selling meth as a completely different medication , and then having the audacity to call it "scare-mongering", is truly bizarro to me. I mean, fentanyl is commonly used as a prescription medication in the US. Would it be "scare mongering" if a journalist reported that…
> Would it be "scare mongering" if a journalist reported that a pharmacy sold fentanyl as Xanax without mentioning fentanyl can be used by prescription in the US? Why do you think that even matters? You were in such a rush to castigate me that you didn't bother reading my reply to any other comment lol https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38729414
Isn't adderall basically prescription meth, anyway?
No. Adderall is normally prescribed in the XR formulation (meaning it's an extended/slow release capsule), and has amphetamine as the active ingredient. Methamphetamine is a different molecule altogether, and typically it's not packaged in slow-release capsules. Yes, methamphetamine is structurally related to amphetamine, but you shouldn't make the mistake to think they are interchangeable. Very often the difference…
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No. Adderall is normally prescribed in the XR formulation (meaning it's an extended/slow release capsule), and has amphetamine as the active ingredient. Methamphetamine is a different molecule altogether, and typically it's not packaged in slow-release capsules. Yes, methamphetamine is structurally related to amphetamine, but you shouldn't make the mistake to think they are interchangeable. Very often the difference…
I've got some H3O+ for people who want to try something "similar" to water in the same way that Adderall is meth.
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>> If the author weren't trying so hard to scare-monger Just read this article on The Atlantic and I would be scared considering what's passing for meth is considerably stronger than what people think nowadays: Different chemically than it was a decade ago, the drug is creating a wave of severe mental illness and worsening America’s homelessness problem. https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2021/11/the-new...
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Have you ever tried meth? I feel like you’re demonizing meth. There is someone reading this who needs meth to function and you’re comparing their prescription to rubbing alcohol. Meth has higher user ratings on Drugs.com for treating ADHD than dextroamphetamine or Adderall etc have. If it weren’t for the side effect profile and potential for abuse, I reckon it would be the mainline treatment. I empathize and understa…
A. They aren't comparing it to rubbing alcohol. The analogy is that they are both alcohol so they are the same right? Obviously not. B. I've tried meth. It's nothing like Adderall and much, much more potent.
I certainly didn't have a scale to measure the dosage to match say a 10mg orange adderall pill.
By analogy, if you did a 75ml "shot" of alcohol each day, and then had a mixed drink one day, you would think it's a lot more potent.
Isn't adderall basically prescription meth, anyway?
No. That's like saying meth anol is basically eth anol. Sure they are chemically similar, but the differences are distinct and very important.
The methyl group attached to the amine basically just helps it cross the blood brain barrier better and makes it more resistant to enzymatic destruction. This means it is a couple times more potent dose-per-dose and lasts longer. It's nothing like the difference between methanol and ethanol, where one will kill you and the other is fine to drink. That IMO a rationalization people with ADHD make to convince themselves their prescribed amphetamines are somehow qualitatively different than big scary meth--just like the rationalization that amphetamine acts magically different in people with ADHD (it calms everyone down in low doses, it just might not provide the same working-memory deficit correcting effects as there is no deficit). In fact, in most of Europe, amphetamine itself is what you find on the streets, not meth.
Isn't adderall basically prescription meth, anyway?
No. Adderall is normally prescribed in the XR formulation (meaning it's an extended/slow release capsule), and has amphetamine as the active ingredient. Methamphetamine is a different molecule altogether, and typically it's not packaged in slow-release capsules. Yes, methamphetamine is structurally related to amphetamine, but you shouldn't make the mistake to think they are interchangeable. Very often the difference…
Talking about methamphetamine as a different molecule is not helpful, as Adderall itself is not a single molecule.
Which I suspect you know, as you mention different enantiomers of thalidomide. However you don't point out that adderall itself is a 3:1 racemic mixture of l and d amphetamine.
The real discussion here is the receptor binding affinity of the various targets of the drugs, and how they compare.
Isn't adderall basically prescription meth, anyway?
Meth is apparently prescription meth.
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I've got some H3O+ for people who want to try something "similar" to water in the same way that Adderall is meth.
This comparison is completely nonsensical.
If we just discussed this as d-amphetamine, l-amphetamine & methyl-amphetamine, the issue of interchangeability would be less confusing.