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How to turn off Google's "privacy sandbox" ad tracking, and why you should

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Re: How to turn off Google's "privacy sandbox" ad tracking, and why you should

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Post by mderazon »

clouddrover wrote: post #6

It's better not to use Chrome in the first place. There's no point staying in an abusive relationship. Use Firefox instead. uBlock Origin works best in Firefox: https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/uBlock-Origin-works-b...

Only thing keeping me out of using Firefox is the lack of multiple profile (one for work and one for personal). I know containers exist, it's not the same (they share extensions for example). It has been requested for many years but they think containers is the way to go which I disagree (or at least think it's not enough)

Re: How to turn off Google's "privacy sandbox" ad tracking, and why you should

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Post by clouddrover »

mderazon wrote: post #71
clouddrover wrote: post #6

It's better not to use Chrome in the first place. There's no point staying in an abusive relationship. Use Firefox instead. uBlock Origin works best in Firefox: https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/uBlock-Origin-works-b...

Only thing keeping me out of using Firefox is the lack of multiple profile (one for work and one for personal). I know containers exist, it's not the same (they share extensions for example). It has been requested for many years but they think containers is the way to go which I disagree (or at least think it's not enough)

Multiple profiles in Firefox: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/profile-manager-create-...

Re: How to turn off Google's "privacy sandbox" ad tracking, and why you should

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Post by Andrex »

mderazon wrote: post #63
urbandw311er wrote: post #12

If you care at all about privacy and the future of a free Internet, this really should be that watershed moment that makes you take your head out of the sand. Seriously. Uninstall Chrome today and switch to something else. It’s only if enough people do it that they lose their grip and influence.

I really wish other browsers were supported natively in ChromeOS as I really like the OS but would prefer to use Firefox

Both the Android and ARM Linux versions of Firefox are available and installable on ChromeOS.

Google has been taking steps to decouple Chrome from the base OS for a bit now[0].

0. https://chromeunboxed.com/lacros-chrome-browser-chromebooks-...

Re: How to turn off Google's "privacy sandbox" ad tracking, and why you should

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Post by agwa »

insanitybit wrote: post #69
agwa wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Correct, with the caveat that if you have Chrome profile sync enabled (without a sync passphrase set) then the advertising data tracked by Chrome likely gets uploaded unencrypted to Google-operated servers. I don't know if their privacy policy permits them to look at this data, or if they would look at it in practice.

Hm. All of my sync data is encrypted. Is that not the default?

Nope. See the following page for some screenshots of the UI to turn on encryption with sync passphrases: https://palant.info/2023/08/29/chrome-sync-privacy-is-still-...

Re: How to turn off Google's "privacy sandbox" ad tracking, and why you should

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Post by ddxv »

mderazon wrote: post #64

When I first saw this I was really confused about what to do as it seemed I was turning privacy off by turning these off. The use of the term privacy with this feature is confusing

As someone who works in adte h my opinion this was started by Apple's 'privacy' features which just means you opt in to apple tracking everything instead of other companies. The issue I have there is that Apple is the company that knows your real name. They used this to become a late monopoly in iOS advertising.

Google took note and is now building and offering more "privacy tools".

Re: How to turn off Google's "privacy sandbox" ad tracking, and why you should

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Post by mderazon »

Andrex wrote: post #73
mderazon wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I really wish other browsers were supported natively in ChromeOS as I really like the OS but would prefer to use Firefox

Both the Android and ARM Linux versions of Firefox are available and installable on ChromeOS. Google has been taking steps to decouple Chrome from the base OS for a bit now[0]. 0. https://chromeunboxed.com/lacros-chrome-browser-chromebooks-...

Android version on a PC is not a good experience. The Linux Firefox is installable on ChromeOs but takes a lot of time to load and feels second class

Re: How to turn off Google's "privacy sandbox" ad tracking, and why you should

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Post by insanitybit »

agwa wrote: post #74
insanitybit wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hm. All of my sync data is encrypted. Is that not the default?

Nope. See the following page for some screenshots of the UI to turn on encryption with sync passphrases: https://palant.info/2023/08/29/chrome-sync-privacy-is-still-...

Thanks. I hope they enable that by default at some point.

Re: How to turn off Google's "privacy sandbox" ad tracking, and why you should

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Post by mderazon »

clouddrover wrote: post #72
mderazon wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Only thing keeping me out of using Firefox is the lack of multiple profile (one for work and one for personal). I know containers exist, it's not the same (they share extensions for example). It has been requested for many years but they think containers is the way to go which I disagree (or at least think it's not enough)

Multiple profiles in Firefox: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/profile-manager-create-...

I know about this actually, but it's tucked in where none can find it and not really the same visibility as Chrome profiles and easily switchable

Re: How to turn off Google's "privacy sandbox" ad tracking, and why you should

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Post by resoluteteeth »

madeofpalk wrote: post #70
Moru wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's also not legal in GDPR lands. It has to be easy to understand, the default have to be to opt out, and you are not allowed to block usage for people that opted out. Oh, and the message has to be short . I have seen "a sentence or two" mentioned as suggestion.

Within Europe you get a different dialog box that has more explicit buttons, removing any sort of plausible deniability for Google here. Looks like this https://blog.incogni.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/enhanced...

Fascinating. This really proves that Google knows that the version it's using elsewhere is a dark pattern.

Re: How to turn off Google's "privacy sandbox" ad tracking, and why you should

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Post by jiveturkey »

mderazon wrote: post #71
clouddrover wrote: post #6

It's better not to use Chrome in the first place. There's no point staying in an abusive relationship. Use Firefox instead. uBlock Origin works best in Firefox: https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/uBlock-Origin-works-b...

Only thing keeping me out of using Firefox is the lack of multiple profile (one for work and one for personal). I know containers exist, it's not the same (they share extensions for example). It has been requested for many years but they think containers is the way to go which I disagree (or at least think it's not enough)

Do you even browse, bro?

Profiles have existed in FF for a very long time, I believe even back to the launch of Chrome. I think what Chrome did was made them readily accessible. I might have the history slightly wrong, but FF has had them at least as far back as 2011.

Can you please share where profiles have been requested for many years?

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