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“this kid” calls the company and spins webs of lies until someone gives him access to internal systems; a.k.a social engineering. Nothing of value has been lost.
Getting in is getting in. Social engineering is like 90% of hacking.
Life in prison for up to $10m in damages? At first I thought the number must be off by a factor of 10. I couldn’t help but see Dr Evil for a moment. These are at best property crimes, and while the sums are non trivial, sentencing children to indefinite imprisonment for a nonviolent crime against a megacorp is unconscionable.
> judge described as "unpleasant and frightening pattern of stalking and harassment" of two young women
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The idea that we should, to some extent, excuse physical violence for 18-year-olds is disturbing.
I don't believe I advocated for excusing their behavior, but I don't think it's fair to label a kid as "a violent person who can't control themselves"
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Note the violence. This is a person that can't control themselves when things don't go their way.
This is an 18 year old kid.
I recall being quite cognizant of adult thoughts & adult responsibility at age 14.
At age 20 I created something with friends that has led to multiple tens of millions of research funding for college students.
Many highly intelligent high school students compete in science & engineering competitions beyond levels of college & graduate level students.
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This is an 18 year old kid.
Plenty of 18 year olds do amazingly responsible things with positive impacts on society. I recall being quite cognizant of adult thoughts & adult responsibility at age 14. At age 20 I created something with friends that has led to multiple tens of millions of research funding for college students. Many highly intelligent high school students compete in science & engineering competitions beyond levels of college & gra…
How many people have made mistakes and learned/grew from them.
He's a child give him time.
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No, not life in prison. Detention in a psychiatric hospital for an autistic person who is violently attacking other people. > dozens of reports of injury or property damage
Though we don't consider it such, because we accept that police are needed to maintain some level of order and it's not good when people resist arrest, the violence was more or less in self-defense. I think there's a huge difference between someone (especially someone with "severe autism") lashing out when getting more or less abducted and removed from a familiar environment by force (even if we'd prefer they stay ca…
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Not sure if I'd call that severe autism. That's psychopathic behavior, when you don't feel any remorse for your crimes.
I don't feel remorse for his crimes. Am I a psychopath? Hacking a game company just so you can show people what is being worked on should not be a crime .
Let's change the wording around a bit. What makes hacking a "game company" exempt from normal ethics into breaking and entering?
What if the "game company" consists of only a single employee who uses their personal laptop? Totally fine to break into their computer and steal their data right?
Why stop at "game companies"? How about all companies? How about you? Why just computers? Remember that one time when you accidentally left your apartment window open, and then a "hacker" waltzed in and took pictures of all your personnel effects?
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Plenty of 18 year olds do amazingly responsible things with positive impacts on society. I recall being quite cognizant of adult thoughts & adult responsibility at age 14. At age 20 I created something with friends that has led to multiple tens of millions of research funding for college students. Many highly intelligent high school students compete in science & engineering competitions beyond levels of college & gra…
People age and mature differently. How many people have made mistakes and learned/grew from them. He's a child give him time.
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Did you miss the part about assaulting staff and property destruction. What about the part where he continued hacking after being busted the first time and released on bail. Its pretty clear that the kid poses a danger and doesn't understand that he needs to stop. This isn't a youthful prank/indiscretion that went too far. This kid was on trial for causing millions in damages, and then did it again while on trial. Ye…
> this kid is incredibly destructive Incredibly? There are many kids that age who murder and commit other serious felonies.
Do you think any of these people wanted to spend their time on this, that otherwise important things weren't delayed and sidelined? Do you think that the people he stole crypto enjoy having to work extra hours to make up for what he stole?
His crimes weren't victimless, and plenty of real people were impacted in serious ways. This wasn't some kid who pushed his computer skills a little too far and went somewhere he shouldn't. He engaged in an international conspiracy to extort millions using stolen data.
There are kids that age who commit murder and other serious crimes, and they should face consequences just like he is. But the grand majority of kids that age get through life without committing any serious crime at all.