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Re: Show HN: Talk to any ArXiv paper just by changing the URL

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While it certainly seems cool, as with most other AI tools I'm struggling to see how I'd use it. That is, I can't think of anything I'd want to ask. I assume I'm just getting old and have a limited imagination when it comes to these new AI things. Anyone got any good examples on how to effectively use this?

The questions would come from reading a paper in particular. Have a question? Ask away. That's how I'd use it personally.

Re: Show HN: Talk to any ArXiv paper just by changing the URL

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You might be able to drop the PDF backend since they're close to getting HTML running well: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38713215 Using that might be easier than a multi-modal approach. Bonus points for: * Multiple papers at once * Comparing PDF and HTML output with the LLM as input for it correcting similar converter code

Definitely I'll move to the LaTeX source code instead of a PDF backend since that allows better support for non textual data that gets poorly scraped by GROBID. That is a really cool development I didn't know about, also theres https://ar5iv.labs.arxiv.org/ which already has most arXiv papers as HTML documents. I chose GROBID because they not only parse the PDF but organize the text into logical sections for me (Intr…

Maybe you could use: https://github.com/facebookresearch/nougat/tree/main or https://github.com/VikParuchuri/marker

Both are tools to convert pdfs into Latex or Markup with latex formulas. Maybe that helps

Re: Show HN: Talk to any ArXiv paper just by changing the URL

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Definitely I'll move to the LaTeX source code instead of a PDF backend since that allows better support for non textual data that gets poorly scraped by GROBID. That is a really cool development I didn't know about, also theres https://ar5iv.labs.arxiv.org/ which already has most arXiv papers as HTML documents. I chose GROBID because they not only parse the PDF but organize the text into logical sections for me (Intr…

Maybe you could use: https://github.com/facebookresearch/nougat/tree/main or https://github.com/VikParuchuri/marker Both are tools to convert pdfs into Latex or Markup with latex formulas. Maybe that helps

Reading the motivation for the second:

"Relying on autoregressive forward passes to generate text is slow and prone to hallucination/repetition. From the nougat paper: We observed [repetition] in 1.5% of pages in the test set, but the frequency increases for out-of-domain documents. In my anecdotal testing, repetitions happen on 5%+ of out-of-domain (non-arXiv) pages."

When these are fed in the next levels as inputs, isn't it even less surprising to get even more hallucinations/repetitions?

Re: Show HN: Talk to any ArXiv paper just by changing the URL

#44

While it certainly seems cool, as with most other AI tools I'm struggling to see how I'd use it. That is, I can't think of anything I'd want to ask. I assume I'm just getting old and have a limited imagination when it comes to these new AI things. Anyone got any good examples on how to effectively use this?

"What's the gist of this thing?"

"I'm building xyz app, how could this be applicable?"

"I want to know if x or y, what does this paper say, or does it even apply?"

"Implement the pseudocode algorithm in python"

"Can you help me understand section X, the wording is tricky"

"Doesn't this suffer from {flaw}?"

"How does the paper address x?"

No, an AI will not give 100% perfect answers all of the time. You know who else? Humans. You already have mechanisms to deal with unreliability, so please save yourself time and use AI to be more efficient.

Re: Show HN: Talk to any ArXiv paper just by changing the URL

#45

While it certainly seems cool, as with most other AI tools I'm struggling to see how I'd use it. That is, I can't think of anything I'd want to ask. I assume I'm just getting old and have a limited imagination when it comes to these new AI things. Anyone got any good examples on how to effectively use this?

The questions would come from reading a paper in particular. Have a question? Ask away. That's how I'd use it personally.

What I'm trying to say is I'm not used to think that way. I can't think of a question to ask.

Re: Show HN: Talk to any ArXiv paper just by changing the URL

#46

While it certainly seems cool, as with most other AI tools I'm struggling to see how I'd use it. That is, I can't think of anything I'd want to ask. I assume I'm just getting old and have a limited imagination when it comes to these new AI things. Anyone got any good examples on how to effectively use this?

Presumably you're reading the paper for a reason. Take why you're reading the paper and form it into a question.

Re: Show HN: Talk to any ArXiv paper just by changing the URL

#47

While it certainly seems cool, as with most other AI tools I'm struggling to see how I'd use it. That is, I can't think of anything I'd want to ask. I assume I'm just getting old and have a limited imagination when it comes to these new AI things. Anyone got any good examples on how to effectively use this?

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Re: Show HN: Talk to any ArXiv paper just by changing the URL

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The oldest instance of it that I know is putting something like download before or after the youtube domain. This must have been 2008±2. I very much doubt that's the first instance ever but I wasn't around online in the 90s (aside from on my grandma's machine who didn't know her computer had a web browser, but that wasn't very conscious, just a neutral net (young me) clicking buttons to see the effect)

ss before youtube.com brings you to a download page (i.e. ssyoutubecom)

Subject: Discontinuation of Service in the Great Britain

Blocked in the UK :(

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