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Re: Nobody knows what's happening online anymore

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Post by mistermann »

akoboldfrying wrote: post #369
Tade0 wrote: post #350

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or we could collectively ask ourselves what we want and do that, instead of leaving the decision to the most selfish of our kind. That was never a good system to begin with.

>we could collectively ask ourselves what we want and do that That is what democratic countries already do every 3-5 years -- and TTBOMK the system that gets chosen has so far had capitalism as an important component every single time, despite the option to vote for parties that eschew it partly or completely.

>>we could collectively ask ourselves what we want and do that

>That is what democratic countries already do every 3-5 years

Not sure what country you live in but in Canada they just give you a list of 4 or 5 names of people and you choose one, there's no asking of people what they'd like to do in the slightest. In fact, it's even worse: the folks campaign with certain sales pitches, but rarely follow up on their promises.

It is fascinating how well done story telling can make people oblivious to what physically occurs.

Re: Nobody knows what's happening online anymore

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Post by mensetmanusman »

tayo42 wrote: post #234
mensetmanusman wrote: post #230

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Yep, that's the trade off of the first amendment.

You know this isn't a first ammendment issue? The government isn't involved.

if someone asks if you should "do something" about someone else's speech, that implies the full force of the law.

Re: Nobody knows what's happening online anymore

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Post by xnx »

majewsky wrote: post #399
xnx wrote: post #283

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> Are video games actually fun? Rarely for Xbox, Playstation, and PC, but frequently for Nintendo. Mario Kart with friends is a certified hoot.

As someone who played on a Switch for a significant time (mostly Zelda and Mario games) and then transitioned back to PC games, I'm going to guess that by "video games for Xbox, Playstation and PC", you mean the big tentpole titles. Just within that frame of reference, I would agree. However, most of my playtime on PC is in indies, and those are just as fun as Nintendo games if you know where to look. For recommendat…

Thanks. I'd never heard of that prize. I've played a few games on that list (Superhot, Tunic) and am going to give Spiritfarer a try.

Re: Nobody knows what's happening online anymore

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Post by turquoisevar »

staunton wrote: post #378
vibrolax wrote: post #191

I periodically check out YouTube while not signed in, to see what YouTube is pushing to the unidentified. It's just like TV used to be, aimed at a pretty low target. And that's nearly all American TV had. At least YouTube still has a longer tail of genuinely good work.

> I periodically check out YouTube while not signed in I wonder if that actually works... It still tracks location, obviously Cookies (which you probably delete for this) and possibly a lot of other things. Maybe YouTube even maps your IP address to previous logins and uses that information "just slightly" in order to not throw you off...

It’s seems to work pretty well, based on some non-scientific testing most of the suggestions is content similar to what’s on their trending page, which is what I’d expect.

But I’m sure YouTube slowly but surely starts building a profile while in incognito to try and capture your eye balls.

Re: Nobody knows what's happening online anymore

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Post by corethree »

chrisweekly wrote: post #429
corethree wrote: post #352

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>That's a broad brush you're painting with, amigo. As a 49yo father w/ two teen daughters (17 and 15), I've been surprised and delighted at the strong bonds I have w/ each of them (esp. my 17yo). We "hang out", and seek each others' company, to our mutual enjoyment -- it's absolutely nothing like my relationship w/ my own parents at their age. This is not the norm though. I wonder why people think countering somethin…

OP said "no 16 year-olds..." (ie, zero). A single example to the contrary does serve as a counter. But my point wasn't to be pedantic, rather it was taking an oppty to share a positive example about a rare connection I'm fortunate to have. IME it's often interesting to read counterexamples to broad generalizations, for a more complete perspective.

Yeah but he obviously didn't mean zero.

You should mention this in your reply because it seems like an attempt at refutation. Like the generality is obviously wrong. It's not. The broad brush is correct. Your experience is the anomaly.

Re: Nobody knows what's happening online anymore

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Post by _lvbh »

irrational wrote: post #329
pavon wrote: post #124

Recently I was thinking about how I am completely out of touch with the culture of younger generations, and was about to laugh it off cause that's how it is with every generation, but then I realized that I don't even know how I would know. In the past if you wanted to know what kids were listening to, you change the radio station to that new loud one you normally skip, or watch that new TV show that people are going…

Bet (I have no idea what the slang word “bet” actually means, but I choose to believe it is the appropriate response here.)

Funnily enough, I had to spend a few minutes reading up on it yesterday. I think it’s akin to “you bet” or “of course”

Re: Nobody knows what's happening online anymore

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Post by anileated »

steveBK123 wrote: post #418
anileated wrote: post #349

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In the day when a lot happens online, purely sitting in front of a screen it’s possible to produce excellent and deep investigative stories. You do own open-source intelligence, you interview sources, etc., all while in front of the screen. Bellingcat does it on a regular basis, for example. You do not need to step out of your room to spot lies and discrepancies.

Yes & No. Twitter, it is always worth remembering, is not real life. The opinions you encounter as typical there tend to be the very fringe single digit percents of each political faction. Viewing the world through it exclusively is perilous.

When someone publishes a recording that is verifiably Russian bombing of Syria, and claims it to be Israeli bombing of Gaza, it is not a matter of “opinion”. And investigative journalism has nothing to do with Twitter in particular. However, do remember that Twitter (as well as Facebook, TikTok, Hacker News, Mastodon, email, Matrix, WhatsApp, or what have you) is as much part of real life as anything else, online and off, is part of real life. It is not some proverbial Las Vegas where nothing counts.

Re: Nobody knows what's happening online anymore

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Post by martinky24 »

_xnmw wrote: post #439

This is more important than it seems: without a common canon of things in a collective consciousness, you have nothing to talk about.

I'm really not sure this take passes the sniff test. Each and every day I have meaningful conversations with folks who I don't share the same hobbies/interests with, and these conversations typically don't include "what's viral on the internet".

And for those I am closer with, who I do share hobbies and interests with, we obviously have things to talk about as we're following the same topics.

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