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Re: Nobody knows what's happening online anymore

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Post by Jordrok »

mensetmanusman wrote: post #215
Jordrok wrote: post #211

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Death_of_the_Author

I think people with near zero empathy regard their interpretation as primary, but most humans can understand that people have different senses of humor.

> but most humans can understand that people have different senses of humor

I agree completely. And I would think that someone with greater than zero empathy would have a hard time arguing that there is one and only one correct way to interpret a piece of writing. An author with a non-zero amount of empathy should be well aware that their work will be interpreted in a variety of ways by a varied audience, and won't seek to hide behind the flimsy shield of "satire" when they publish something intentionally provocative and incendiary.

Re: Nobody knows what's happening online anymore

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Post by [deleted] »

cbozeman wrote: post #44
segasaturn wrote: post #4

Maybe that's a good thing? I remember a few years ago when journalists were outsourcing their reporting to Twitter and we had headlines like "The Internet is Freaking Out About X" when it was really a dozen nobodies on Twitter. The death of Twitter and the re-fragmentation of the internet sounds like a breath of fresh air compared to the purple haze of the last decade's centralized web.

X isn't dead, nor is it dying. Elon Musk took away a bunch of people's status, people who thought they were important somebodies because some nerds in an office met them in person and/or they paid some money to get a verification mark. That's what happened. It's the election of Donald Trump all over again. One of the few people who actually understood what happened in the 2016 election - and was able to articulate it…

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Re: Nobody knows what's happening online anymore

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Post by AlbertCory »

autoexec wrote: post #163

The article says we probably haven't heard of the most popular show on netflix (and I hadn't), but it's important to note that they're defining "popularity" as the show most often viewed, and not by how much people enjoyed the content. Reviews for the show ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Night_Agent ) suggest that it's mediocre and forgettable. You've very likely heard of, and watched, the most popular shows on n…

Damn. I was thinking I was ahead of this dude, since I have seen that.

But no, it was The Night Manager. Sigh.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1399664/?ref_=nm_flmg_t_14_act

Re: Nobody knows what's happening online anymore

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Post by tayo42 »

mensetmanusman wrote: post #230
tayo42 wrote: post #214

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If i found out who you were in real life, and lets say I had a big platform, and started writing "satire" about you to spreading rumors, you just have to deal with it? I can hide behind the idea I'm calling it satire with no repurcusion? Like sticking with the Halloween theme, "Mensetmanusman's neighbors are unsure if the screams are Halloween decorations, or another child locked in his basement this year" I can writ…

Yep, that's the trade off of the first amendment.

You know this isn't a first ammendment issue? The government isn't involved.

Re: Nobody knows what's happening online anymore

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Post by SpicyLemonZest »

Geisterde wrote: post #201
tayo42 wrote: post #193

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think that's a little too cynical about culture in the past decades and also underestimating how much curated stuff is being shoved down our throats now. It's not really discovering, it's consuming what ever some ml model from one of the few big tech companies decides you should see.

I have become immunized to algorithmic content curation, I dont know exactly why that happened, but understanding how it works at a surface level I think helped. Im curious if thats a widespread phenomena or not, I suspect it is.

I’m pretty skeptical that it’s possible to be immune to algorithmic content curation. It seems more than a little bit like the people who say “hey, mainstream media is all biased, but that’s not a problem for me because I’ve found the sources that are actually true”. How do you choose which content to watch and how does that process exclude algorithmic curation?

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Post by nuker »

progrus wrote: post #220
nuker wrote: post #189

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And all of those "brainwashed mids" just randomly happen to live close to cities, where housing is more expensive, meaning higher income, which means higher education levels.

Common sense is more valuable (in the real sense, not just money) than a diploma. And, the GPT revolution is making traditional education even less important than before. “Hate all you want, but I'm smart, I'm so smart, and I'm in school. These guys are out here making money all these ways, and I'm spending mine to be smart. You know why? Because when I die, buddy, know what's gonna keep me warm? That's right, those…

> Common sense is more valuable

You assume that people with high income/education have less common sense. Correct?

Re: Nobody knows what's happening online anymore

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Post by liveoneggs »

cogman10 wrote: post #18
segasaturn wrote: post #4

Maybe that's a good thing? I remember a few years ago when journalists were outsourcing their reporting to Twitter and we had headlines like "The Internet is Freaking Out About X" when it was really a dozen nobodies on Twitter. The death of Twitter and the re-fragmentation of the internet sounds like a breath of fresh air compared to the purple haze of the last decade's centralized web.

I tend to agree. Far too many "journalists" are publishing articles like "here's what one reddit user discovered about xyz".

at least in that case they credit reddit instead of "Now that everyone..." or "People outraged..."

Re: Nobody knows what's happening online anymore

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Post by dj_gitmo »

the_doctah wrote: post #45
segasaturn wrote: post #4

Maybe that's a good thing? I remember a few years ago when journalists were outsourcing their reporting to Twitter and we had headlines like "The Internet is Freaking Out About X" when it was really a dozen nobodies on Twitter. The death of Twitter and the re-fragmentation of the internet sounds like a breath of fresh air compared to the purple haze of the last decade's centralized web.

"Death of Twitter" why are people so deluded and so eager for Twitter to fail? You were a big fan of the previous regime's censorship?

There was some data that suggested twitter was already in a decline before Musk. People have just been souring on social media in general.

Re: Nobody knows what's happening online anymore

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Post by latency-guy2 »

nuker wrote: post #189
progrus wrote: post #186

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh really? Which group are you? That election was about people with common sense getting one over on the brainwashed mids, obviously.

And all of those "brainwashed mids" just randomly happen to live close to cities, where housing is more expensive, meaning higher income, which means higher education levels.

Could educated people ever be wrong?

Re: Nobody knows what's happening online anymore

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Post by foobarian »

nitwit005 wrote: post #227
pavon wrote: post #124

Recently I was thinking about how I am completely out of touch with the culture of younger generations, and was about to laugh it off cause that's how it is with every generation, but then I realized that I don't even know how I would know. In the past if you wanted to know what kids were listening to, you change the radio station to that new loud one you normally skip, or watch that new TV show that people are going…

It may have been easier in the past, but most things aren't as obvious as music or fashion. Many trends often start out literally underground. How would you have found out kids were playing dungeons and dragons in their basement?

Why in church of course! When the pastor would condemn the practice and warn of eternal damnation. /s
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