Is there any update on the archlinux templates? This is my only problem with Qubes as a daily driver
Qubes OS 4.2.0 has been released
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Re: Qubes OS 4.2.0 has been released
#12Anyone using Qubes as a daily driver on laptops (for basic work, not gaming, GPU or video related tasks, etc). I worry that there will be issues with updates, and so on.
I've been using QubesOS for years, and I highly recommend it. Not only for security (which of course), but also for the cleanliness of not polluting your computer with a myriad of dependencies for projects you just tried once. And of course, the high-risk activities that we all have to do at some point (now at least their risk is limited to their virtual machine) : - curl|bash or similar - pip install, npm install et…
Why not just do all that in a throwaway container?
Re: Qubes OS 4.2.0 has been released
#13Earlier quoted context omitted.
Which issues? I'm very happy with Qubes OS, using it as a daily driver for many years. It helps to organize your digital life and gives a great sense of security and control over your computer. I tried to list its advantages here: https://forum.qubes-os.org/t/how-to-pitch-qubes-os/4499/15 Another report from a user: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36267756
I installed Qubes OS last year. First, the installation was not smooth. I had to play with the UEFI BIOS settings to get the installer work. It can be picky with respect to hardware. That’s OK, but it’s unclear what works and what doesn’t, and you have to spend time searching the internet. If you look at their FAQs and forum, you will find all sorts of known problems that may arise just around the installation and bo…
I never experienced fragility of Qubes OS, it's been rock solid for me for years.
You can find information on recommended hardware that works smoothly here: https://forum.qubes-os.org/t/community-recommended-computers...
And HCL lists all known hardware-related problems: https://qubes-os.org/hcl
Re: Qubes OS 4.2.0 has been released
#14Earlier quoted context omitted.
I've been using QubesOS for years, and I highly recommend it. Not only for security (which of course), but also for the cleanliness of not polluting your computer with a myriad of dependencies for projects you just tried once. And of course, the high-risk activities that we all have to do at some point (now at least their risk is limited to their virtual machine) : - curl|bash or similar - pip install, npm install et…
Why not just do all that in a throwaway container?
Hardware virtualization is much more secure.
Re: Qubes OS 4.2.0 has been released
#15Is there any update on the archlinux templates? This is my only problem with Qubes as a daily driver
Re: Qubes OS 4.2.0 has been released
#16Re: Qubes OS 4.2.0 has been released
#17Earlier quoted context omitted.
Hardware virtualization is much more secure.
Not any more it isn't. Rootless non-root containers are about as secure as VMs today.
Last time VT-d virtualization was escaped was in 2006 and done by the Qubes founder herself:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Pill_(software)
How is it about the containers?
Re: Qubes OS 4.2.0 has been released
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Not any more it isn't. Rootless non-root containers are about as secure as VMs today.
Last time VT-d virtualization was escaped was in 2006 and done by the Qubes founder herself: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Pill_(software) How is it about the containers?
>Last time VT-d virtualization was escaped was in 2006 and done by the Qubes founder herself:
Have you been living under a rock [0]?
>How is it about the containers?
Container security aka OS virtualization has been quite secure for a while now.
[0] https://www.csoonline.com/article/551445/significant-virtual...
Re: Qubes OS 4.2.0 has been released
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Last time VT-d virtualization was escaped was in 2006 and done by the Qubes founder herself: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Pill_(software) How is it about the containers?
>Last time VT-d virtualization was escaped was in 2006 and done by the Qubes founder herself: Have you been living under a rock [0]? >How is it about the containers? Container security aka OS virtualization has been quite secure for a while now. [0] https://www.csoonline.com/article/551445/significant-virtual...
> Have you been living under a rock [0]?
I think you don't understand: Qubes relies on hardware, not software virtualization: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hardware-assisted_virtualiza...
Re: Qubes OS 4.2.0 has been released
#20Earlier quoted context omitted.
>Last time VT-d virtualization was escaped was in 2006 and done by the Qubes founder herself: Have you been living under a rock [0]? >How is it about the containers? Container security aka OS virtualization has been quite secure for a while now. [0] https://www.csoonline.com/article/551445/significant-virtual...
> Have you been living under a rock [0]? I think you don't understand: Qubes relies on hardware , not software virtualization: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hardware-assisted_virtualiza...
I think you don't understand. Qubes relies on software virtualization in conjunction with hardware assisted virtualization instruction sets. The aforementioned vulnerability existed in Qubes Xen.