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IBM creates breathing, high-density, light-weight lithium-air battery

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Re: IBM creates breathing, high-density, light-weight lithium-air battery

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Post by DanBC »

51Cards wrote: post #3

This is slightly off topic but simply stated I just love IBM these days. There aren't many corporations that dedicate as much focus on research and yet, for a large corp. they also keep their nose surprisingly clean (these days). While we watch the swirling tech scandals ebb and flow they just quietly sit off to the side and keep changing the world.

> they also keep their nose surprisingly clean (these days)

I too love IBM but they have a lot worse than some patent trolling lurking in their history.

(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_during_World_War_II)

Re: IBM creates breathing, high-density, light-weight lithium-air battery

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Post by grannyg00se »

This would be mind blowing but did they in fact create such a battery as the title suggests? The video talks about year 2030. If they had created working prototypes already I would expect that commercialization would be years away, not decades.

Re: IBM creates breathing, high-density, light-weight lithium-air battery

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Post by speleding »

unwind wrote: post #13

So ... As the battery is used, bonds are formed between oxygen molecules in the air, and the lithium ions on the battery's electrodes. Weight is saved by "borrowing" those O2s from the air, as compared to carrying them around fixed in an oxide. Fine. Does that mean that as the battery charge is depleted (=it runs out of free lithium ions, I guess), it's mass increases due to all the newly bound oxygen being stored in…

Cool. that would actually be a useful UI feedback property: to check if your phone needs recharging, just pick it up. If it feels heavy it needs to be charged.

Re: IBM creates breathing, high-density, light-weight lithium-air battery

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Post by iRobot »

grannyg00se wrote: post #62

This would be mind blowing but did they in fact create such a battery as the title suggests? The video talks about year 2030. If they had created working prototypes already I would expect that commercialization would be years away, not decades.

18 Years to market - WTF, we should have mr-fusion by then

Re: IBM creates breathing, high-density, light-weight lithium-air battery

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Post by Permit »

DanBC wrote: post #61
51Cards wrote: post #3

This is slightly off topic but simply stated I just love IBM these days. There aren't many corporations that dedicate as much focus on research and yet, for a large corp. they also keep their nose surprisingly clean (these days). While we watch the swirling tech scandals ebb and flow they just quietly sit off to the side and keep changing the world.

> they also keep their nose surprisingly clean (these days) I too love IBM but they have a lot worse than some patent trolling lurking in their history. ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_during_World_War_II )

I wonder how relevant this really is? Although the IBM of 2012 shares the same name of the IBM of the 1940s, I can't help but wonder if that's the only quality the two companies share. It's not as though employees of that era are still employed there today.

Re: IBM creates breathing, high-density, light-weight lithium-air battery

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Post by ars »

DanBC wrote: post #61
51Cards wrote: post #3

This is slightly off topic but simply stated I just love IBM these days. There aren't many corporations that dedicate as much focus on research and yet, for a large corp. they also keep their nose surprisingly clean (these days). While we watch the swirling tech scandals ebb and flow they just quietly sit off to the side and keep changing the world.

> they also keep their nose surprisingly clean (these days) I too love IBM but they have a lot worse than some patent trolling lurking in their history. ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_during_World_War_II )

Everyone has some bad stuff in their history.

And while it's very important to remember that this happened! It's time to disconnect this event from the company as it exists today.

You are only responsible for the sins of your parents if you keep doing those sins.

Re: IBM creates breathing, high-density, light-weight lithium-air battery

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Post by Peaker »

Drakim wrote: post #17
51Cards wrote: post #3

This is slightly off topic but simply stated I just love IBM these days. There aren't many corporations that dedicate as much focus on research and yet, for a large corp. they also keep their nose surprisingly clean (these days). While we watch the swirling tech scandals ebb and flow they just quietly sit off to the side and keep changing the world.

I work for a help-desk part of IBM. We use IE6. :(

IE6 worries you? There's Lotus Notes!

Re: IBM creates breathing, high-density, light-weight lithium-air battery

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Post by MrJagil »

Tooluka wrote: post #58
MrJagil wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Got any sources?

I'm extrapolating on all industry actually, but I have a friend in a small (<100) company in ex-USSR that does exclusively patent reverse engineering for Freescale/Motorola. This one company (there are at least several others working for F/M in Czech and few other countries) does at least hundred patent researches per year for 10+ years at least, meaning buying devices by Apple, Samsung, TI, Microsoft etc. demolishin…

Interesting, thanks for clarifying :)

Re: IBM creates breathing, high-density, light-weight lithium-air battery

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Post by whatusername »

Drakim wrote: post #17
51Cards wrote: post #3

This is slightly off topic but simply stated I just love IBM these days. There aren't many corporations that dedicate as much focus on research and yet, for a large corp. they also keep their nose surprisingly clean (these days). While we watch the swirling tech scandals ebb and flow they just quietly sit off to the side and keep changing the world.

I work for a help-desk part of IBM. We use IE6. :(

Wow. I haven't opened ie on my think pad in years. And it's been longer since I ran ie6

IE 6 as a requirement is really rare now. (as an FYI for everyone else - IBM has one of the largest Mac fleets in the world, and fully supports a Linux desktop client as well. ( and yes Lotus Notes runs on win/mac/Linux/iOS/Android)

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