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JetBrains forces AI freemium plugin that cannot be completely removed into IDEs

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Re: JetBrains forces AI freemium plugin that cannot be completely removed into IDEs

#31

I'm looking forward to using the integration, personally. This is a low quality submission. You're mad about some issue tracker thing but I don't see how this is relevant to the rest of HN or why this is soooo important.

> I'm looking forward to using the integration, personally.

That's all right and perfectly valid.

What is not is what is described in the linked issue.

Re: JetBrains forces AI freemium plugin that cannot be completely removed into IDEs

#32
post #29

Many plugins can't be completely removed but you can disabled them, was wrong with that? I disabled this one and it hasn't nag me.

According to the issue, this plugin still nag user after disable

Nags about updates which you can ignore, just like every other plugin.

Re: JetBrains forces AI freemium plugin that cannot be completely removed into IDEs

#33
post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The thing about trust is... Once broken it is hard to recover. Here we have 2xshitty behaviors, we can see around this product. Who is to say there isn't more we can't see. Removing it seems 100% reasonable, if only for security purposes.

A disabled plugin has virtually no security implications.

How about first open after upgrade?

If you upgrade from a older version, it open your previous project with the plugin enabled without asking.

Re: JetBrains forces AI freemium plugin that cannot be completely removed into IDEs

#34
post #10

I recently started to learn a new programming language and was thinking that CoPilot etc would help me in that regard. I was surprised to find the opposite: whenever I would pause to think about a solution, AI would be polluting my editor with suggestions and completely interrupt my train of thought. ChatGPT has been very handy for random questions about the language, but in-editor suggestions completely ruin any att…

VSCode and CoPilot now has a mode where you ask for suggestions, which is better. In my Emacs + CoPilot setup, suggestions pop up unasked for which I need to change.

This was one of my main complaints when I tried it, perhaps I’ll give it another shot with that setting. The suggestions automatically appearing made it feel like having a conversation with one of those people who is always jumping to finish your sentences for you, but guessing wrong as to what you were about to say.

Re: JetBrains forces AI freemium plugin that cannot be completely removed into IDEs

#35

Oh, come on. It's a high-pressure situation, where they're damned if they don't offer any AI plugins (why are you not as good as X???), and they're damned if they do (why is this freemium crap polluting my otherwise nag-free freeloader experience?) Things will take a while to settle. Unless your workflow is *truly* broken by the fall-out, save your outrage. And yes, I'm a paying JetBrains customer, don't like their A…

Sure, but you should at least be able to uninstall the plugin. According to the thread it reinstalls itself on each launch

That seems like a minor bug at most? And if the plugin remains enabled, but doesn't do anything, what's the actual issue here?

Rephrased: what's the problem with waiting until the next point release of the affected product before assuming malicious intent?

Re: JetBrains forces AI freemium plugin that cannot be completely removed into IDEs

#36

I tested this out and I'm not very impressed. It's a chatbot that has limited access to your source code (the file you have open I believe). The AI doesn't have a complete picture of your project and it would probably be too expensive to ingest thousands of lines of code. The code it generates is... what you come to expect from a coding assistant. It's hit and miss, and it needs heavy refactoring. It feels like this…

This is what every company is doing in the name of integrating "Gen AI". 90% of it is chat bots. And in 90% of those places I dont want a chat bot.

https://cursor.sh is trying to make the actually useful AI coding assistant, where it has access to your whole project for context

Re: JetBrains forces AI freemium plugin that cannot be completely removed into IDEs

#37
post #31

I'm looking forward to using the integration, personally. This is a low quality submission. You're mad about some issue tracker thing but I don't see how this is relevant to the rest of HN or why this is soooo important.

> I'm looking forward to using the integration, personally. That's all right and perfectly valid. What is not is what is described in the linked issue.

> What is not is what is described in the linked issue.

There seems to be a singular issue/ bug, which is that a disabled plugin is being re-enabled after update. This is just a bug, I don't understand why this is HN-worthy.

If the headline were "intellij has a bug where a disabled plugin is being re-enabled" it would be accurate, not-inflammatory, and boring.

Re: JetBrains forces AI freemium plugin that cannot be completely removed into IDEs

#38
post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A disabled plugin has virtually no security implications.

How about first open after upgrade? If you upgrade from a older version, it open your previous project with the plugin enabled without asking.

Yeah I don't see the problem with that at all. Intellij packages plugins. Plugins run.

The only issue here is that it's being automatically enabled after it is disabled, which I assume is just a simple bug and not at all the big deal this is being made out to be.

Re: JetBrains forces AI freemium plugin that cannot be completely removed into IDEs

#39
post #10

I recently started to learn a new programming language and was thinking that CoPilot etc would help me in that regard. I was surprised to find the opposite: whenever I would pause to think about a solution, AI would be polluting my editor with suggestions and completely interrupt my train of thought. ChatGPT has been very handy for random questions about the language, but in-editor suggestions completely ruin any att…

VSCode and CoPilot now has a mode where you ask for suggestions, which is better. In my Emacs + CoPilot setup, suggestions pop up unasked for which I need to change.

Please post your Emacs config if you do make that change.

Re: JetBrains forces AI freemium plugin that cannot be completely removed into IDEs

#40
post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How about first open after upgrade? If you upgrade from a older version, it open your previous project with the plugin enabled without asking.

Yeah I don't see the problem with that at all. Intellij packages plugins. Plugins run. The only issue here is that it's being automatically enabled after it is disabled, which I assume is just a simple bug and not at all the big deal this is being made out to be.

Alas, it blocks my upgrade totally.

I'm glad your firm lets you send code anywhere. Mine does not.

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