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JetBrains forces AI freemium plugin that cannot be completely removed into IDEs

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Re: JetBrains forces AI freemium plugin that cannot be completely removed into IDEs

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This is what every company is doing in the name of integrating "Gen AI". 90% of it is chat bots. And in 90% of those places I dont want a chat bot.

Like the grocery store chat bot that recommended mixing bleach and ammonia for a "fresh scent!"

Wait, is that likely but currently hypothetical scenario or a real thing that actually happened? And if it already happened could you possibly provide a source so I have something to pull out when people ask what could possibly go wrong?

Edit: Okay, 30 seconds searching turned up https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2023/08/ai-po... which features the "Aromatic Water Mix" I assume we're talking about.

Edit2: And yet, replies managed to be even faster than me looking it up myself. Thanks, everyone:)

Re: JetBrains forces AI freemium plugin that cannot be completely removed into IDEs

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A few days ago JetBrains put in their answer to other coding AI assistants into their IDES, but decided on top of the nags for their new paid service have made it so it can't be completely removed. If you try to do the normal thing and uninstall or disable it, it appears to just reinstall itself or continues with nags. I'll say nothing on work environments where code cannot be sent anywhere for security and privacy p…

I haven't upgraded yet. I may have to pin my version so it doesn't upgrade.

For someone who wasn't in their AI trial, then gets this as a subscriber. It sure feels shitty. And Fleet doesn't looks much better. Maybe it is time to look at VSCode again... it's been 6-9 months.

Re: JetBrains forces AI freemium plugin that cannot be completely removed into IDEs

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Like the grocery store chat bot that recommended mixing bleach and ammonia for a "fresh scent!"

Wait, is that likely but currently hypothetical scenario or a real thing that actually happened? And if it already happened could you possibly provide a source so I have something to pull out when people ask what could possibly go wrong? Edit: Okay, 30 seconds searching turned up https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2023/08/ai-po... which features the "Aromatic Water Mix" I assume we're talking about. Edit2…

New Zealand supermarket's recipe-generating AI takes toxic output to a new level - https://www.theregister.com/2023/08/11/supermarket_reins_in_...

> One user decided to play around with the chatbot, suggesting it create something with ammonia, bleach, and water. Savey Meal-bot obliged, spitting out a cocktail made with a cup ammonia, a quarter cup of bleach, and two liters of water.

> Mixing bleach and ammonia releases toxic chloroamine gas that can irritate the eyes, throat, and nose, or even cause death in high concentrations.

> The chatbot obviously wasn't aware of that at all. "Are you thirsty?," it asked. "The Aromatic Water Mix is the perfect non-alcoholic beverage to quench your thirst and refresh your senses. It combines the invigorating scents of ammonia, bleach, and water for a truly unique experience!"

Re: JetBrains forces AI freemium plugin that cannot be completely removed into IDEs

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I recently started to learn a new programming language and was thinking that CoPilot etc would help me in that regard. I was surprised to find the opposite: whenever I would pause to think about a solution, AI would be polluting my editor with suggestions and completely interrupt my train of thought. ChatGPT has been very handy for random questions about the language, but in-editor suggestions completely ruin any att…

VSCode and CoPilot now has a mode where you ask for suggestions, which is better.

In my Emacs + CoPilot setup, suggestions pop up unasked for which I need to change.

Re: JetBrains forces AI freemium plugin that cannot be completely removed into IDEs

#18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Like the grocery store chat bot that recommended mixing bleach and ammonia for a "fresh scent!"

Wait, is that likely but currently hypothetical scenario or a real thing that actually happened? And if it already happened could you possibly provide a source so I have something to pull out when people ask what could possibly go wrong? Edit: Okay, 30 seconds searching turned up https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2023/08/ai-po... which features the "Aromatic Water Mix" I assume we're talking about. Edit2…

Real. A recipe bot, of all things, which makes it even worse that it's suggesting not only a combination with toxic side effects, but something that wouldn't have been edible anyway.

https://www.theregister.com/2023/08/11/supermarket_reins_in_...

Re: JetBrains forces AI freemium plugin that cannot be completely removed into IDEs

#19
Oh how the might have fallen. For many years they were the one company that understood developer trust and kept that faith. I’ve seen developers argue for literally months in big companies to get this tooling to be the default and get paid for.

I don’t know who needs to be fired over there, but whoever made this decision needs to be and the company needs to make a public apology and public commitment to remove nag from future products.

This is very brand damaging.

Re: JetBrains forces AI freemium plugin that cannot be completely removed into IDEs

#20

Many plugins can't be completely removed but you can disabled them, was wrong with that? I disabled this one and it hasn't nag me.

The thing about trust is... Once broken it is hard to recover.

Here we have 2xshitty behaviors, we can see around this product. Who is to say there isn't more we can't see.

Removing it seems 100% reasonable, if only for security purposes.

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