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Re: Nobody knows what's happening online anymore

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Maybe that's a good thing? I remember a few years ago when journalists were outsourcing their reporting to Twitter and we had headlines like "The Internet is Freaking Out About X" when it was really a dozen nobodies on Twitter. The death of Twitter and the re-fragmentation of the internet sounds like a breath of fresh air compared to the purple haze of the last decade's centralized web.

Re: Nobody knows what's happening online anymore

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> I don't want content aggregated by 3rd parties and drip-fed to me telling me what I should believe, what is important, and what I should focus on.

> I want my AIs to give me a morning newspaper of content from across the internet (...)

Please make this make sense.

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I think many people would relate in some fashion to your sentiments. However, your sentiments are ironically what spurred how we got where we are.

The eviscerating 'me' movement has underpinned all other movements and social interactions. It's everywhere. Individualized everything. This started sometime in the late 1990's early 2000's. It made observational journalism briefly a few times over the last two decades, but not enough nor deep.

No longer is it just material items - no it's worse - fully digital and everything everywhere.

I speak for myself from the US but I can only assume it's prevalent everywhere else in world, at least to some extent.

Re: Nobody knows what's happening online anymore

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> The very idea of popularity is up for debate: Is that trend really viral? Did everyone see that post, or is it just my little corner of the internet?

This is exactly it.

Consider a scenario that's likely fairly common given experiments I've done in the last several years. Say a site people still use to talk to/keep in touch with friends sometimes like IG/FB decides a user is "toxic" and either shadowbans them, or starts hiding their posts from friends. Maybe it isn't even because of a bad interaction, maybe the algorithm just decided their "content" wasn't suitable to be towards the top of this user's followers' feeds.

What would that look like to this user? It'd look like their friends were ignoring them, weren't interested in them, etc., possibly leading to depression (which has been proven pretty undeniably that high levels of social media use in teens results in higher levels of anxiety and depression).

The fact that people en masse are not pointing out how ridiculous this is, that a social media site can have such enormous influence on one's perception of "reality" is staggering and it should die and die quickly.

Re: Nobody knows what's happening online anymore

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> I don't want content aggregated by 3rd parties and drip-fed to me telling me what I should believe, what is important, and what I should focus on. > I want my AIs to give me a morning newspaper of content from across the internet (...) Please make this make sense.

I want to fine-tune AIs on my own decision-making in an auditable way where I can review their decisions and course correct their decision-making when they get it wrong.

Where I don't need to read every letter I receive in the mail, and every text message delivered to my phone. I want to fine-tune AIs that can make approximately the same decisions I would about what is worth spending my time on, and what can safely be sent to the rubbish bin.

I want an army of executive assistants, an org chart of AIs, working on managing my information on my behalf in a way that is aligned with me.

I do not want a neutral aggregator.

I want a biased aggregator whose bias is intentionally aligned with my own. An aggregator who is accountable and aligned only with me, not a 3rd party who happens to run the servers my communication is flowing through.

I don't think this is a novel desire. Secretaries and executive assistants have existed for a long time, and have filled this role. But I can't afford to pay someone a livable wage to sort through my email for me.

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> I don't want content aggregated by 3rd parties and drip-fed to me telling me what I should believe, what is important, and what I should focus on. > I want my AIs to give me a morning newspaper of content from across the internet (...) Please make this make sense.

Right, the myth of the neutral aggregator.

The aggregator is going to generally have some opinion on it, whether it be your own opinion fed back to you, or those of the author.

Whether that opinion is "right" or "wrong" is in the eye of beholder..

In some ways the recommendation engines feeding you your own preferences is the easiest thing to implement that satisfies the most people at once.

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