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Zuckerberg hunkers down in Hawaii to wait out apocalypse

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Re: Zuckerberg hunkers down in Hawaii to wait out apocalypse

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Post by satvikpendem »

spaceman_2020 wrote: post #11
frognumber wrote: post #8

This is rational. The odds of disaster are >10%, if history is any indicator. We had two world wars in the last century, for example. Events happen. Past doesn't predict future, but there are dozens things which can go wrong. If I had $100B, it would make sense, from purely an expected value perspective, to invest up to perhaps $10B preparing. An expected value perspective isn't the right way of looking at this, but…

My perspective on this changed after I had a daughter. I used to think, “we have to look out for everyone”. But now, my mindspace is occupied with my kid’s safety and wellbeing. Sure, we should look out for everyone, but my kid comes way ahead. If I had $100 and I had to spent $1 to increase her safety profile, I’ll happily do it.

You should watch Sam Esmail's latest work, Leave The World Behind.

Re: Zuckerberg hunkers down in Hawaii to wait out apocalypse

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Post by satvikpendem »

11101010001100 wrote: post #31
frognumber wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It depends on your moral philosophy. To give an extreme, hedonistic utilitarianism says it is. I'm not that extreme, but there are limits to what I'll spend money on, in light of the opportunity cost of helping others. Sending my kid to college for the equivalent of providing full cost-of-living to a thousand people for 200 days? Gladly. Buy a car for the same amount? No matter my income, I wouldn't do it. It's a fri…

I don't see how picking a philosophy then claiming the outcome is rational, while picking a different philosophy will lead to a claim that the outcome is irrational is anything more than just quibbling over inconsistent semantics.

Rational just means that the logic is sound and valid. If each philosophy's axioms change, both can be rational, logically speaking, but be incompatible.

Re: Zuckerberg hunkers down in Hawaii to wait out apocalypse

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Post by bamboozled »

JohnFen wrote: post #20
spaceman_2020 wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My perspective on this changed after I had a daughter. I used to think, “we have to look out for everyone”. But now, my mindspace is occupied with my kid’s safety and wellbeing. Sure, we should look out for everyone, but my kid comes way ahead. If I had $100 and I had to spent $1 to increase her safety profile, I’ll happily do it.

Having children just underscored the importance of looking out for everyone to me. The better everyone is doing, the safer the world is for my kids.

Same sentiment for me too. I became super vulnerable at first ,but that vulnerability was a healthy thing. I realized how precious my children and their life and future are, and that has inspired me to try raise the bar for everyone around me where possible. Not just my own child.

Re: Zuckerberg hunkers down in Hawaii to wait out apocalypse

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Post by aydyn »

SkyPuncher wrote: post #40
aydyn wrote: post #36

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> The whole point of EBT is to keep people fed. If they are eating junk food and not maximizing their nutritional value to your satisfaction that’s fine because they’re still eating. They could eat for much less than that. Again, why should the taxpayer be subsidizing luxury spending? Junk food is a luxury. > If you’re really worried about your tax expenditures look at defense contracting and spending. EBT fraud is a…

What an entitled take. Junk food is popular for many reasons. Beyond “tasing good”, most of it is readily accessible, requires no prep, and is calorie dense. It certainly lacks nutrients, but it does keep people going. I know any people take this for granted, but knowing how to prepare food from scratch is a skill. It takesa time, it takes effort, it takes knowledge that some people simply don’t feel they have.

Entitled, like expecting free food? Nice reversal!

Preparing food is a red herring, there's lots of food better than junk food that takes no prep time at all.

Re: Zuckerberg hunkers down in Hawaii to wait out apocalypse

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Post by aydyn »

jarjar2_ wrote: post #38
aydyn wrote: post #36

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> The whole point of EBT is to keep people fed. If they are eating junk food and not maximizing their nutritional value to your satisfaction that’s fine because they’re still eating. They could eat for much less than that. Again, why should the taxpayer be subsidizing luxury spending? Junk food is a luxury. > If you’re really worried about your tax expenditures look at defense contracting and spending. EBT fraud is a…

I would continue discussing this with you, but if you object to people buying a bag of chips, I can draw a relatively easy conclusion to your overall opinion on the social safety net and probably tax policy. It's not worth my time.

That would be your assumption due to your own political bias.

That reflects on you, not me.

Like I legitimately just want the system to be more efficient lol. It must be hard for you to talk to people?

Re: Zuckerberg hunkers down in Hawaii to wait out apocalypse

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Post by OezMaster »

brnt wrote: post #17
15457345234 wrote: post #13

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That's the model that worked for kingdoms, dukedoms and fiefdoms for ages, I don't know why you think it wouldn't work now. The hierarchy establishes itself under a figure they feel will protect them and keep them safe. It's a personality cult. They work. Don't ask me why, but they do.

Come the apocalypse, nobody is going to seek shelter under the iron fists of Zuckerberg. He lacks raw power (where is his army?) and if he had it, the stomach to ruthlessly apply it. Ruthlessly exploit teens mental wellbeing through a website is quite something else than being seen to wield deadly physical force yourself.

Zuckerberg has been training (and posing) with mma fighters. He is an mma fighter himself. I think you underestimate his potential for violence.

Re: Zuckerberg hunkers down in Hawaii to wait out apocalypse

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Post by brnt »

OezMaster wrote: post #46
brnt wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Come the apocalypse, nobody is going to seek shelter under the iron fists of Zuckerberg. He lacks raw power (where is his army?) and if he had it, the stomach to ruthlessly apply it. Ruthlessly exploit teens mental wellbeing through a website is quite something else than being seen to wield deadly physical force yourself.

Zuckerberg has been training (and posing) with mma fighters. He is an mma fighter himself. I think you underestimate his potential for violence.

MMA isn't at all about hurting anyone.

Re: Zuckerberg hunkers down in Hawaii to wait out apocalypse

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Post by koolala »

aydyn wrote: post #44
SkyPuncher wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What an entitled take. Junk food is popular for many reasons. Beyond “tasing good”, most of it is readily accessible, requires no prep, and is calorie dense. It certainly lacks nutrients, but it does keep people going. I know any people take this for granted, but knowing how to prepare food from scratch is a skill. It takesa time, it takes effort, it takes knowledge that some people simply don’t feel they have.

Entitled, like expecting free food? Nice reversal! Preparing food is a red herring, there's lots of food better than junk food that takes no prep time at all.

What are some tasty ones besides raw fruits and veggies? Penut Butter and Jelly?

Re: Zuckerberg hunkers down in Hawaii to wait out apocalypse

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Post by spaceman_2020 »

JohnFen wrote: post #20
spaceman_2020 wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My perspective on this changed after I had a daughter. I used to think, “we have to look out for everyone”. But now, my mindspace is occupied with my kid’s safety and wellbeing. Sure, we should look out for everyone, but my kid comes way ahead. If I had $100 and I had to spent $1 to increase her safety profile, I’ll happily do it.

Having children just underscored the importance of looking out for everyone to me. The better everyone is doing, the safer the world is for my kids.

Sure, but the sentiment changed from "we can all fight this together" to "we can all fight this together AFTER I've secured my child".

Re: Zuckerberg hunkers down in Hawaii to wait out apocalypse

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Post by JohnFen »

spaceman_2020 wrote: post #49
JohnFen wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Having children just underscored the importance of looking out for everyone to me. The better everyone is doing, the safer the world is for my kids.

Sure, but the sentiment changed from "we can all fight this together" to "we can all fight this together AFTER I've secured my child".

Not for me. For me "fighting this together" is securing my children.
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