Has anyone proposed CommonMark over HTTP? Like, just shove markdown in a GET response with Content-Type: text/markdown And let the client decide how to render it. It'd be like Gopher, but modern.
That's the philosphy behind Markus Docnet
The "Cheap" Web
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I mean, that's because Facebook Pages are cheap. Businesses don't want to spend money on anything they don't have to, and people aren't much different. The argument for learning to write even basic HTML only to upload it even to something like Amazon S3 (free) and direct a web address to it (not free) or spend money on hosting to not have to learn how to deposit files into an S3 bucket is a LOT of time to spend to ac…
The other conclusion I've come to is that web designers way overcomplicate stuff. So I don't want to do a Facebook page. What are my relatively low-cost options? Well, I can have a really basic HTML site but that's a little late-90s. OK, a Wordpress site then. Now I'm dealing with introductory rates that shoot up after a year unless I just use a standard VPS and now I'm having to do a lot of stuff myself. And, as far…
> So I don't want to do a Facebook page. What are my relatively low-cost options?
There's some level of complexity in all of those choices compared to just having a FB page.
I liken it to taking the bus everyday over buying an e-bike. Buying a bike is complicated, expensive, easy to make mistakes. But at the end of the day, you'll have a vehicle to take you from A to B.
You don't have to buy one, as long as the bus keeps running. But one day the bus route or schedule might change, and it no longer takes you where you wanted to go. This is when having a bike, warts and all, would've been be useful.
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#143What a breath of fresh air is browsing simple websites, where content in mainly text and images are sparingly used. All "modern" websites are so tiring. Now if website pops up anything on screen on first visit, be it newsletter signup, login request or just huge image covering whole viewport, I just switch to reader view.
If I can't close it immediately and resume I right-click->Block Element. If doing that leaves the page unusable, I usually just click off. I'm with you, the web today is exhausting and feels hostile to the user in most cases.
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#144The thing that makes me disagree with proponents of the "smol"/"cheap"/etc Web is their totally misguided insistence on personal webpages as a sui generis medium for self-expression wrt layout and styling. > Until we adopt simple and stable building materials, all websites will continue to look the same. Yeah, big deal. Who cares if websites look the same? Wait, let me put that another way: we should care whether web…
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#145Has anyone proposed CommonMark over HTTP? Like, just shove markdown in a GET response with Content-Type: text/markdown And let the client decide how to render it. It'd be like Gopher, but modern.
Could we go with a format that doesn’t have so much unnecessary complexity?
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#146Has anyone proposed CommonMark over HTTP? Like, just shove markdown in a GET response with Content-Type: text/markdown And let the client decide how to render it. It'd be like Gopher, but modern.
Good luck getting the browsers to implement anything so useful. They won't even update their default stylesheets.
I set up my blog with that kind of mentality - I just want to write some markdown and have the browser render it whatever way it needs to - and found a one-liner to pull in some Javascript to do that. But the kind of people who like this stuff tend to hate Javascript, so I get it from both sides.
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> it gives you the power to create experiences and share them almost effortlessly That's exactly where the hate comes from: I don't want you, the web designer, to have the power to create experiences, because you (collectively) use that power to force experiences on me that I don't want to have.
Don't visit the website
I visit it and use reader mode, it works pretty well most of the time. My browser works for me, not them. Shame about the bloated filesizes though.
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#148The thing that makes me disagree with proponents of the "smol"/"cheap"/etc Web is their totally misguided insistence on personal webpages as a sui generis medium for self-expression wrt layout and styling. > Until we adopt simple and stable building materials, all websites will continue to look the same. Yeah, big deal. Who cares if websites look the same? Wait, let me put that another way: we should care whether web…
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Can you stop making up quotes? You do it a lot on this site, and it's both uncool and against the rules. I'm not going to engage with the other, less obvious (but still not particularly well-hidden) strawmen in your comment.
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Don't visit the website
I hope we can have a more reasoned debate than this. This topic is really important and frankly there's so much to it I hope that hearing others I can learn more. When I read some of the thread above what I am hearing is: "I don't want people to be able to run programs on my computer without asking explicitly". Which is exactly what the modern web and modern web browsers enable. If you learned computing in the 90's y…
In real life you have even less freedom. There doesn't exist an equivalent of "reader mode" out in the streets. You can't mod reality or add a few scripts.
Don't like the topology of a parking lot? Tough luck, either navigate it or don't park there.
Hate the hospital's maze-like corridors? Sure they suck, but you are still getting operated there.
Your department's bulletin board is an unorganized mess? I'm sure you'll not drop out because of that.
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Can you stop making up quotes? You do it a lot on this site, and it's both uncool and against the rules. I'm not going to engage with the other, less obvious (but still not particularly well-hidden) strawmen in your comment.
Eh? I didn't "make up" anything. Quotation marks are commonly used for all sorts of things other than exact literal text someone else said, and having a dialogue like that is one of them. I will continue to use quotations marks in this fashion, together with millions of other people on the planet, whether you like it or not, because it's a common way to use quotation marks and absolutely no one is confused this usage.
My post broke zero rules and I encourage you to email HN if you think that I'm a pervasive rule-breaker with my alleged "made-up quotes" so you can be told the same by the site's moderators so these pointless spurious accusations can stop.