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Facebook Is Being Overrun with Stolen, AI-Gen Images That People Think Are Real

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Re: Facebook Is Being Overrun with Stolen, AI-Gen Images That People Think Are Real

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Post by whelp_24 »

numpad0 wrote: post #104
whelp_24 wrote: post #62

404 media is really, really anti-ai and especially image generation. In this case stolen isn't as inaccurate as it could be but the article definitely has a strong bias. (Stolen in the same way a musician can steal a chord progression, i.e, not illegal but done faithfully enough sorta unethical)

Everyone violently pro- OR anti-AI should realize they're violently agitated before any word is spoken. The most plausible explanation to this phenomenon is that, AI image generators trigger Uncanny Valley effect[1]. It might have hit the bottom, or there could be more below, but either way, people should be aware and be mindful and be interested in that they are more agitated than with respect to superficial agreeme…

I don't understand what this has to do with my comment.

Also, ai art has gotten past uncanny valley in a lot of cases, that's why there is concern it's possible to confuse with real images.

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Post by PolieBotics »

Apocryphon wrote: post #226

Is this how blockchain makes its comeback? Weren't they saying it can be used to certify original images somehow

In my opinion, yes. I posted elsewhere on this thread to spam my project, which is to derive an initialisation vector from a blockchain (or other interlocutor), derive a projection from this I.V., record an image of the resultant projection, hash it, project the hash, repeat this process, and resubmit the final hash to the blockchain. A neural network is used to verify the correspondence between projection and image (e.g. by training an autoencoder on the concatenated RBG matrices). In a mature system, this process is performed at a rate not achievable by generative networks.

I have a sample dataset at truthbeam.etc, timestamped at https://explorer.rsk.co/address/0xb4910aa351e7f425369f497230... on Rootstock.

I'm here to spam and answer questions, and I'm running low on spam!

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Post by majewsky »

spacecadet wrote: post #221
hackerlight wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

With the same incentives you will end up with the same monstrosity. Fix the incentives not the symptoms.

Sure, figured "resow the seeds" would say that, but over yer head. Sorry.

Not a native speaker, but for what it's worth, "resow the seeds" has a strong connotation of "just try the same thing again" to me. As in, "Last year's crop has been destroyed by a drought. We'll resow the same kind of seeds and try again this year."

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Post by trinsic2 »

korse wrote: post #216
pjc50 wrote: post #74

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They did do something: they blocked people using adblockers. Really we need some body like the UK ASA to say "you're liable for all these frauds, Google".

They tried to block people using adblockers perhaps or maybe they rolled the block out in a non-uniform manner? I still haven't had any problems.

NoScript baby.

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Post by [deleted] »

goles wrote: post #196
edf13 wrote: post #131

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Tried reading a local newspaper website recently? It’s a mess of ads, pop ups, scams leaving a small 2-3 line window of text to read and scroll!

Having changed a lot of my media habits post-2020 reading a newspaper (including digital versions[1]) has become my favorite way to consume news for a few fairly-obvious sounding reasons when said aloud in the current landscape. - Newspapers end. Any news site, or social media peddling news in disguise, will never stop showing you content. Even if that content is something you won't like, and they know you won't like…

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Post by trinsic2 »

jshen wrote: post #126
miah_ wrote: post #53

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This right here is why we adblock. Google needs to wake up and do something if they really want to stop people from using adblocks on Youtube, or their other properties.

The solution is paying for content, but it's been shown over and over again that the vast majority of people won't pay for most of the content they consume.

I think people won't pay for licenses to access to content (well they already are). But I think it comes down to the tangibility of the product in question. Digital licenses to access content can come and go at a whim. No thanks.

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Post by rurp »

jshen wrote: post #126
miah_ wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This right here is why we adblock. Google needs to wake up and do something if they really want to stop people from using adblocks on Youtube, or their other properties.

The solution is paying for content, but it's been shown over and over again that the vast majority of people won't pay for most of the content they consume.

It's been shown that when companies will run products at a massive loss for years in order to capture a monopoly that most customers will make the individually rational choice of taking the free service offered.

Youtube only got to where it is now by Google plowing billions of dollars from a different monopoly into it. Most of the other major "free" consumer tech products gained their market share by burning way more money than most competitors could afford.

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