They aren’t stolen. If a human saw that image and made a similar picture (a man with a carving of a dog), it wouldn’t be a copyright violation. You can’t steal an idea.
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#162I wonder if we will get to a point where the web is so saturated with this junk that the web itself starts to lose its luster. If AI can dream up a million impressive wood carvings, it seems like the real carving I saw in person is the only one that is actually interesting.
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#163The financial incentives encourage this. All FB cares about is the monthly and daily active users don't dip, and they get more ad impressions. They don't care if the content is fake, so long as it gets eyeballs on the page or in the app.
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#164And 100% of my YouTube ads are scams the last few weeks, many with deepfake fuckery going on. This whole side of the Web needs to be put down. The algo-feed ad-clearinghouse side. It’s a cesspit.
Tried reading a local newspaper website recently? It’s a mess of ads, pop ups, scams leaving a small 2-3 line window of text to read and scroll!
The names of all the channels on youtube are starting to remind of all those stupid company names (LYRXXX, COOFANDY etc) you see on Amazon. The true destructive contribution of AI will simply be the exponential shitification of the Internet experience.
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#165How is it possible to generate a stolen image?
Just more pearl-clutching about AI. The images are mimicking several original images of a person with some artwork they made. The 'stolen' images are of a very similar form, but with changes to the person and the artwork. Presumably, they make fake versions of the images to gain clout on FB or elsewhere without having to credit the original artist.
While it is ethically dubious, I don't really care. The pearl-clutching that we're inventing a fake reality can be viewed two different ways. Either it's overblown, as it clearly doesn't matter who is liking what on the internet, not in the grand scheme of things. Or if it is a problem, the ship sailed a decade ago when people started carrying a screen around in their pockets 24/7, and AI art is just another drop in the bucket.
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#166Earlier quoted context omitted.
That is the literal plan of disinformation campaigns. The few who actually believe the BS is merely a bonus. The real goal is to get people to give up on finding the truth. At that point, they become easy to manipulate (because there is no outside standard of facts to work around).
It has never been realistic for people to find the truth, perhaps save those who are focused on a very narrow subject of truth and are dedicating their lives to the study. We have always relied on a collection of people with the aforementioned focus with some system of accreditation to tell us what is true. While far from perfect, I'm not sure a deluge of generated AI nonsense outside of the vetted channels, compleme…
>>It has never been realistic for people to find the truth,
Rather strained definition of truth there. The truth that matters is a basic not-very-wrong version of what is happening.
Examples: 1) The earth is roughly spheroidal. 2) NASA is a real space agency and landed people on the moon in 1969-1973. 3) The trails behind airplanes are condensation particles, not sprayed chemicals. 4) Vaccines are safe and effective, and the ratio of issues to prevented disease is on the order of millions-to-one, a vast benefit to society, especially those who medically cannot get vaccines. 5) Hijacked airlines and not pre-set explosives brought town the WTC towers in NYC on 9/11/2001. Etc. Etc. Etc....
We do NOT need a doctorate in Geology, selection into NASA Astronaut Corps, graduate astronomic physics course, PhD-level immunology, or a structural engineer's license to understand any of the above to a useful level.
Yet, there is sufficient human-generated noise to convince millions that none of these are true.
And you are claiming that adding industrial-scale AI agents to the public 'conversation' at a scale never seen in history will have zero effect?
Sure, it might completely fizzle. But the normal and prudent expectation when something comes in and "floods the zone with shit" [0], especially when that shit has the potential to be at a volume that is far beyond anything experienced, is to expect that it will have some effect.
What evidence do you have that it will have no effect? In answering, consider another top HN story at the moment "Facebook Is Being Overrun with Stolen, AI-Gen Images That People Think Are Real". [1]
[0] Steve Bananon's description of a disinformation tactic
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#167I see a silver lining here. One of the worst parts about social media is image crafting. And it even seeps into real life on occasion where you see people at incredible locations spending all their time trying to craft some perfect pic to put up, instead of just soaking in the location or even really enjoying themselves. If anybody can [literally] image craft anything, then the entire point of online image crafting d…
...and then our social relationships are judged on a default presumption of distrust?
On the internet, nobody knows that you're a dog.
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#168It is the same people that exercise no discernment when sharing fake news that share these obviously fake AI images. I’ve been seeing it for most of this year and it is concerning that people can’t spot obvious fakes at current AI tech levels.
LinkedIn is pretty bad too. From people with fancy sounding job titles.
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#169And 100% of my YouTube ads are scams the last few weeks, many with deepfake fuckery going on. This whole side of the Web needs to be put down. The algo-feed ad-clearinghouse side. It’s a cesspit.
It's a sign that mass-communication-for-everyone-at-scale isn't a great idea after all. We can just go back to small forums and private group chats. Let human-scale social norms rule instead of algorithmically-amplified grey goo.
Except we can't, as evident by the fact that this isn't happening.
So what now, a ban on "mass communication for everyone at scale"? How exactly will that be defined and enforced?
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#170Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm curious what you were aiming at?
When the normal Internet becomes unusable because it is filled with AI spam, people will still find untainted information among the 20 million books and 100 million scientific papers in the shadow libraries. If we have a software that can make browsing books a little bit more like browsing the web, then usability will be better.
There are already many examples of AI generated books spamming Amazon -- how do we separate the wheat from the chaff?