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Facebook Is Being Overrun with Stolen, AI-Gen Images That People Think Are Real

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Re: Facebook Is Being Overrun with Stolen, AI-Gen Images That People Think Are Real

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Post by quelltext »

Facebook is being overrun with low effort memes and repetitive video content (literally being shown the same crap in regular intervals either reposted or from the same source). I make an effort to hide and block each time I see another video dominating my timeline but alas, it doesn't get better.

It's not even ads. I don't mind the ads actually. They seem to be the only sane content in comparison aside of course the occasional but rare real content shared by my friends.

I just want to keep all this crap off my timeline please. Show me more ads if you want, but stop with the TikTok like reposts with AI generated drivel overlayed or some "reaction": "What did you think of this brave lad? We think he's great, leave a comment." Next: 5 minutes craft video.

Re: Facebook Is Being Overrun with Stolen, AI-Gen Images That People Think Are Real

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Post by lawlessone »

ipaddr wrote: post #76
lawlessone wrote: post #17

The comments are probably generated too so it balances out! Youtube shorts are also ruined with tons of "facts" videos that are just generated images and some hilariously bad text to speech readings of wikis. Often though they don't even use any tertiary sources like wikipedia and get some facts very wrong. edit: They also usually have some AI-generated image with some of histories worst dictators made to look nice a…

That wiki's fault. Not sure why we put blind trust that wikipedia facts are accurate that we blame people who reuse the content when the wiki editors are create the disinformation.

>That wiki's fault. Not sure why we put blind trust that wikipedia facts are accurate

Sorry, i wasn't clear. Not all of them are using Wikipedia. Them using Wikipedia is usually best case scenario. Often though it's just anecdotal crap.

Re: Facebook Is Being Overrun with Stolen, AI-Gen Images That People Think Are Real

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Post by Der_Einzige »

visarga wrote: post #83
tarr11 wrote: post #18

I wonder if this problem could be addressed with immutable timestamps and a vector database with image embeddings. Eg, someone builds a system that constructs a graph that points images back to the previous references, based on their distances. The one with the earliest timestamp is considered the original.

That, but also for text. We need an attribution AI to find the source of "inspiration" for any piece of content, in order to avoid generating copyright infringement. A model needs to have a sense of what is infringing.

Or we continue to live in a de-facto copyright free world like right now in the AI space.

Copyright abolitionism is probably the dominant ideological position among AI researchers and thank god for it. Aaron Swartz was a saint.

Re: Facebook Is Being Overrun with Stolen, AI-Gen Images That People Think Are Real

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Post by numpad0 »

whelp_24 wrote: post #62

404 media is really, really anti-ai and especially image generation. In this case stolen isn't as inaccurate as it could be but the article definitely has a strong bias. (Stolen in the same way a musician can steal a chord progression, i.e, not illegal but done faithfully enough sorta unethical)

Everyone violently pro- OR anti-AI should realize they're violently agitated before any word is spoken. The most plausible explanation to this phenomenon is that,

  AI image generators trigger Uncanny Valley effect[1].
It might have hit the bottom, or there could be more below, but either way, people should be aware and be mindful and be interested in that they are more agitated than with respect to superficial agreement/disagreement relevant discussion topics, to terminology("learning") or copyright law interpretations or any of the sorts.

1: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncanny_valley

Re: Facebook Is Being Overrun with Stolen, AI-Gen Images That People Think Are Real

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Post by mock-possum »

labrador wrote: post #84

Believe it or not, there is a high brow Facebook where this is not a problem. I spend a lot of time on FB with my older friends where literature, film, poetry and science are topics and never see fake stuff. It's called out. That said, I can believe it's a problem on low brow Facebook, I just haven't seen it.

Call it out, and employ an n-strikes-process - after you’ve given a particular user a chance to get their act together, simply block them. Now they will no longer waste your time, and in time all you will have left are the users worth remaining connected to.

The problem is, people don’t look at Facebook as an experience they themselves ought to actively curate - it’s mostly out of obligation at this point. They feel guilty if they don’t remain connected to this relative or that friend of a friend or some celebrity or brand, and so they put up with whatever they’re spammed with, rather than choosing to improve their situation.

Re: Facebook Is Being Overrun with Stolen, AI-Gen Images That People Think Are Real

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Post by pfd1986 »

CSMastermind wrote: post #95
philomath_mn wrote: post #15

I wonder if we will get to a point where the web is so saturated with this junk that the web itself starts to lose its luster. If AI can dream up a million impressive wood carvings, it seems like the real carving I saw in person is the only one that is actually interesting.

IMO one of the main things ChatGPT offers is the ability to interact with the knowledge of the internet without wading through ads and SEO spam.

Agreed. I think this is a good argument towards development of open LLMs.

If you're old enough, similar arguments existed about "open / free internet" and we're seeing some of the consequences of having it be controlled by mega corps.

Re: Facebook Is Being Overrun with Stolen, AI-Gen Images That People Think Are Real

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Post by kube-system »

somenameforme wrote: post #92

I see a silver lining here. One of the worst parts about social media is image crafting. And it even seeps into real life on occasion where you see people at incredible locations spending all their time trying to craft some perfect pic to put up, instead of just soaking in the location or even really enjoying themselves. If anybody can [literally] image craft anything, then the entire point of online image crafting d…

...and then our social relationships are judged on a default presumption of distrust?

Re: Facebook Is Being Overrun with Stolen, AI-Gen Images That People Think Are Real

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Post by dissident_coder »

wharvle wrote: post #33

And 100% of my YouTube ads are scams the last few weeks, many with deepfake fuckery going on. This whole side of the Web needs to be put down. The algo-feed ad-clearinghouse side. It’s a cesspit.

This is why I refuse to turn off my adblocker on YouTube, and never will. I'm not rewarding YouTube with my money (for YT Premium) for being absolutely useless at vetting their advertisers. I'd rather just not use YouTube at all if it comes to it.

Re: Facebook Is Being Overrun with Stolen, AI-Gen Images That People Think Are Real

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Post by Log_out_ »

miah_ wrote: post #53
wharvle wrote: post #33

And 100% of my YouTube ads are scams the last few weeks, many with deepfake fuckery going on. This whole side of the Web needs to be put down. The algo-feed ad-clearinghouse side. It’s a cesspit.

This right here is why we adblock. Google needs to wake up and do something if they really want to stop people from using adblocks on Youtube, or their other properties.

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