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Facebook Is Being Overrun with Stolen, AI-Gen Images That People Think Are Real

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Re: Facebook Is Being Overrun with Stolen, AI-Gen Images That People Think Are Real

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post #32

Maybe off-topic, but I was taken aback at actually seeing ads on this page. Long time ago that uBlock Origin did not block something for me.. The horror.

Mm, just upgraded to firefox 120.x and all my extensions were disabled, even though they showed up as enabled in the about:extensions screen. It turns out I am not the only one: https://superuser.com/questions/1819527/firefox-120-panel-no...

I had to disable and re-enable all my extensions to fix it.

Re: Facebook Is Being Overrun with Stolen, AI-Gen Images That People Think Are Real

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I see a silver lining here.

One of the worst parts about social media is image crafting. And it even seeps into real life on occasion where you see people at incredible locations spending all their time trying to craft some perfect pic to put up, instead of just soaking in the location or even really enjoying themselves. If anybody can [literally] image craft anything, then the entire point of online image crafting disappears, because anybody can now trivially fake anything.

Re: Facebook Is Being Overrun with Stolen, AI-Gen Images That People Think Are Real

#93

404 media is really, really anti-ai and especially image generation. In this case stolen isn't as inaccurate as it could be but the article definitely has a strong bias. (Stolen in the same way a musician can steal a chord progression, i.e, not illegal but done faithfully enough sorta unethical)

404 media is lying when they say any image of a man with a wood carving of a dig is stolen. Copyright does not work that way. They need to be sued into bankruptcy for defamation. AI is a wonderful tool that lets anyone creat beautiful images, and the incumbents in the image-faking field are deeply offended by that.

What? I thought copyright would cover "*.human-with-carved-dog", not "specific.human-with-carved-dog". At least that's how it seems to work if you listen to some people. You draw a flower, nobody can draw a flower anymore.

This is the logical conclusion if you believe training on some copyrighted works and then generating different enough content would violate the original copyright.

If I remember correctly, just training on a copyrighted image without generating a similar image was argued in court to be copyright infringement.

Re: Facebook Is Being Overrun with Stolen, AI-Gen Images That People Think Are Real

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe it's time to stop caring so much about things on the internet and focus on the truth that is in front of you, the real things.

Well, if you care about your city or country, you have to care about many things that are not immediately in front of you. And the Internet is one of the main places where such things can be learned about.

Most cities and counties see the people of those cities/countries hire representatives to discover and report on the things that should be cared about that are not immediately in front of the average person going about their day.

If you alone feel you also need to duplicate their efforts, you may just have control issues, but if the need is genuine and shared by many then you need to rally the people to get the problem solved. Paying an employee to do nothing while you pick up the slack is a plain waste of resources.

Re: Facebook Is Being Overrun with Stolen, AI-Gen Images That People Think Are Real

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I wonder if we will get to a point where the web is so saturated with this junk that the web itself starts to lose its luster. If AI can dream up a million impressive wood carvings, it seems like the real carving I saw in person is the only one that is actually interesting.

IMO one of the main things ChatGPT offers is the ability to interact with the knowledge of the internet without wading through ads and SEO spam.

Re: Facebook Is Being Overrun with Stolen, AI-Gen Images That People Think Are Real

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure, but the flip-side is that the truth becomes harder to ferret out as well.

Maybe it's time to stop caring so much about things on the internet and focus on the truth that is in front of you, the real things.

This is the Postmodern Age. People have been writing about this phenomena decades before the widespread adoption of the Internet and before geniuses began penning opinion pieces about how it’s possible to believe untruths now.[1]

Which means that (in turn) you can’t just “log off” and be rid of the problem since it predates... logging off.

Neo thought he could just “log off” in The Matrix. But then then it turned out that the illusions ran deeper than first thought.

[1] Filter Bubble quacks et al

Re: Facebook Is Being Overrun with Stolen, AI-Gen Images That People Think Are Real

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Similarly T-Mobile doesn't give a shit if I send my friends and family text messages full of lies

T-Mobile also doesn’t send your texts to millions of people based on the engagement they generate.

This is why analogies interfere with clear thinking and shouldn't be used as arguments. Usually it's like this. There's a superficial similarity between the two things being compared. Otherwise, those two things are very different, and the comparison is meaningless because of those differences. It's so banal and irksome to see this fallacy everywhere in discussions.

Re: Facebook Is Being Overrun with Stolen, AI-Gen Images That People Think Are Real

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post #76

The comments are probably generated too so it balances out! Youtube shorts are also ruined with tons of "facts" videos that are just generated images and some hilariously bad text to speech readings of wikis. Often though they don't even use any tertiary sources like wikipedia and get some facts very wrong. edit: They also usually have some AI-generated image with some of histories worst dictators made to look nice a…

That wiki's fault. Not sure why we put blind trust that wikipedia facts are accurate that we blame people who reuse the content when the wiki editors are create the disinformation.

Huh?

Re: Facebook Is Being Overrun with Stolen, AI-Gen Images That People Think Are Real

#99
post #33

And 100% of my YouTube ads are scams the last few weeks, many with deepfake fuckery going on. This whole side of the Web needs to be put down. The algo-feed ad-clearinghouse side. It’s a cesspit.

It's a sign that mass-communication-for-everyone-at-scale isn't a great idea after all. We can just go back to small forums and private group chats. Let human-scale social norms rule instead of algorithmically-amplified grey goo.

No one can afford that.

There's a reason why a lot of forums went downhill and got replaced by Reddit... moderating them is a constant effort (and Reddit at least takes over the legally mandated stuff like CSAM, piracy and basic anti-spam), admins are tired of skiddies exploiting phpBB or whatever vulnerabilities the very second they get public, you gotta deal with trolls DDoS'ing you for fun, and also users are lazy because they don't want Yet Another Login (not to mention, Reddit centralizes notifications vs a flooded mailbox). And for blogs, the situation is very similar.

Re: Facebook Is Being Overrun with Stolen, AI-Gen Images That People Think Are Real

#100

I wonder if we will get to a point where the web is so saturated with this junk that the web itself starts to lose its luster. If AI can dream up a million impressive wood carvings, it seems like the real carving I saw in person is the only one that is actually interesting.

Don't worry, the shadow libraries have about 20 million books and 100 million scientific papers available, always increasing. There is little risk of AI spam seeping in there, since piracy is a certain threshold for quality. Who'd risk going to jail for pirating generated spam? ePUB books are basically HTML and CSS, so it's a matter of making a "book browser" instead of a web browser, that can inject links to things…

I'm hoping you were intending sarcasm. Speaking for myself, the _last_ thing I care about is AI researcher access to massive corpora of pirated clean text.

Who knows, maybe AI people _want_ the Web to fill with garbage so people have to ask their creations for information.

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