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Facebook Is Being Overrun with Stolen, AI-Gen Images That People Think Are Real

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Re: Facebook Is Being Overrun with Stolen, AI-Gen Images That People Think Are Real

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Post by mzz80 »

I_Am_Nous wrote: post #48
cubefox wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Perhaps the real wood carving is also no longer interesting, because you already saw so many (fake ones) before.

At that point, the process is the interesting thing. Instead of an AI generating "cool" shapes and delicate carvings, a real person had to painstakingly carve out each tiny channel in the wood - a combination of art, skill, and patience. I can come watch them work each day until I see the transformation of a single block of wood into something functional or beautiful (or both!) On the other hand I might be able to pr…

The only time I go to see how ancient cultures lived without electricity and weaved their own clothes in in museums and tourist attractions. They’re also typically incredibly boring.

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Post by hackerlight »

spacecadet wrote: post #51
wharvle wrote: post #33

And 100% of my YouTube ads are scams the last few weeks, many with deepfake fuckery going on. This whole side of the Web needs to be put down. The algo-feed ad-clearinghouse side. It’s a cesspit.

We need to burn it down and resow the seeds.

With the same incentives you will end up with the same monstrosity. Fix the incentives not the symptoms.

Re: Facebook Is Being Overrun with Stolen, AI-Gen Images That People Think Are Real

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Post by visarga »

tarr11 wrote: post #18

I wonder if this problem could be addressed with immutable timestamps and a vector database with image embeddings. Eg, someone builds a system that constructs a graph that points images back to the previous references, based on their distances. The one with the earliest timestamp is considered the original.

That, but also for text. We need an attribution AI to find the source of "inspiration" for any piece of content, in order to avoid generating copyright infringement. A model needs to have a sense of what is infringing.

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Post by labrador »

Believe it or not, there is a high brow Facebook where this is not a problem. I spend a lot of time on FB with my older friends where literature, film, poetry and science are topics and never see fake stuff. It's called out. That said, I can believe it's a problem on low brow Facebook, I just haven't seen it.

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Post by digging »

RecycledEle wrote: post #78
whelp_24 wrote: post #62

404 media is really, really anti-ai and especially image generation. In this case stolen isn't as inaccurate as it could be but the article definitely has a strong bias. (Stolen in the same way a musician can steal a chord progression, i.e, not illegal but done faithfully enough sorta unethical)

404 media is lying when they say any image of a man with a wood carving of a dig is stolen. Copyright does not work that way. They need to be sued into bankruptcy for defamation. AI is a wonderful tool that lets anyone creat beautiful images, and the incumbents in the image-faking field are deeply offended by that.

> They need to be sued into bankruptcy for defamation.

How about let's not.

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Post by elforce002 »

RajT88 wrote: post #40

Facebook already was a hellscape without the AI generated content. A simple solution: #DeleteFacebook

Usually, I won't use any service, platform, etc..., but with FB, things hit differently. Never in my life, would I have thought I'd be proud of not being part of an org., yet here I am.

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Post by smcin »

Ajedi32 wrote: post #26

Here's one thing I don't get; why did the content farms bother creating all those AI-generated variations when they could have just as easily just used the real photo? Does Facebook have some kind of repost detector that this circumvents?

To make the content immune to DMCA takedown requests.

This also protects the account itself from suspension.

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Post by revscat »

tharne wrote: post #35
usrusr wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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You really think more people rage-commenting on clickbait news articles makes the world better? The parent commenter is right. We should be spending our time on the people and relationships near to us in the real world, not junk on Facebook.

Interesting that you are getting downvoted here. I have come to a similar conclusion, for my own mental health if for no other reason. My ability to affect the course of human civilization is next to zero, and worrying about AGW, etc., is simply not something I feel driven to do anymore.

Instead I’m baking cookies for friends and family today.

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Post by carlosjobim »

philomath_mn wrote: post #15

I wonder if we will get to a point where the web is so saturated with this junk that the web itself starts to lose its luster. If AI can dream up a million impressive wood carvings, it seems like the real carving I saw in person is the only one that is actually interesting.

Don't worry, the shadow libraries have about 20 million books and 100 million scientific papers available, always increasing. There is little risk of AI spam seeping in there, since piracy is a certain threshold for quality. Who'd risk going to jail for pirating generated spam?

ePUB books are basically HTML and CSS, so it's a matter of making a "book browser" instead of a web browser, that can inject links to things mentioned in the book text: such as a name, a place, and especially to another book.

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Post by MarcoZavala »

Ancapistani wrote: post #36

I like to browse the "conspiracy" side of TikTok - not because I believe them, but because I think it's interesting to watch them form, rise in popularity, and be replaced by the next wave of strange ideas. In the past month or so I've noticed an increasing number of videos that use obviously AI-generated images as "proof" for everything from a flat earth to Tartaria and the "mud flood". All of the videos are getting…

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