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Facebook Is Being Overrun with Stolen, AI-Gen Images That People Think Are Real

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Re: Facebook Is Being Overrun with Stolen, AI-Gen Images That People Think Are Real

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Post by BoxOfRain »

philomath_mn wrote: post #15

I wonder if we will get to a point where the web is so saturated with this junk that the web itself starts to lose its luster. If AI can dream up a million impressive wood carvings, it seems like the real carving I saw in person is the only one that is actually interesting.

I definitely think authenticity or at least perceived authenticity will become more important in the future. There's a reason vacuum tubes are still produced industrially for guitarists and HiFi enthusiasts despite being over half a century obsolete and it's because despite digital modelling being just better from an engineering perspective people value the perceived authenticity of the real thing. I'm drawing up plans to build a valve amp myself, despite the fact it'll be worse at being an audio amplifier than one I can buy for a tenth of the price of the parts I value the gently glowing glass and straightforward analogue approach to amplifying sound.

I think whether AI content will put people off the web in general will depend on whether it's actually any good or not. 'That looks like an AI made it' is usually an accusation of shoddiness at the moment!

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Post by akomtu »

wharvle wrote: post #33

And 100% of my YouTube ads are scams the last few weeks, many with deepfake fuckery going on. This whole side of the Web needs to be put down. The algo-feed ad-clearinghouse side. It’s a cesspit.

Don't forget that the recommended videos themselves are manipulative bullshit.

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Post by the_snooze »

wharvle wrote: post #33

And 100% of my YouTube ads are scams the last few weeks, many with deepfake fuckery going on. This whole side of the Web needs to be put down. The algo-feed ad-clearinghouse side. It’s a cesspit.

It's a sign that mass-communication-for-everyone-at-scale isn't a great idea after all. We can just go back to small forums and private group chats. Let human-scale social norms rule instead of algorithmically-amplified grey goo.

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Post by pjc50 »

miah_ wrote: post #53
wharvle wrote: post #33

And 100% of my YouTube ads are scams the last few weeks, many with deepfake fuckery going on. This whole side of the Web needs to be put down. The algo-feed ad-clearinghouse side. It’s a cesspit.

This right here is why we adblock. Google needs to wake up and do something if they really want to stop people from using adblocks on Youtube, or their other properties.

They did do something: they blocked people using adblockers.

Really we need some body like the UK ASA to say "you're liable for all these frauds, Google".

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Post by RecycledEle »

werdnapk wrote: post #70

I'm seeing AI-gen images of obviously (to me) bad nature themed images that sooo many people think are legit and make comments like "Nature is beautiful", "Amazing", "Proof of God", etc. These images don't even need to be stolen... they're just so easy to generate and then posted for clicks.

Most if not all of the "comments like "Nature is beautiful", "Amazing", "Proof of God", etc. are bots or shill accounts.

Welcome to 1998's WWW.

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Post by ipaddr »

lawlessone wrote: post #17

The comments are probably generated too so it balances out! Youtube shorts are also ruined with tons of "facts" videos that are just generated images and some hilariously bad text to speech readings of wikis. Often though they don't even use any tertiary sources like wikipedia and get some facts very wrong. edit: They also usually have some AI-generated image with some of histories worst dictators made to look nice a…

That wiki's fault. Not sure why we put blind trust that wikipedia facts are accurate that we blame people who reuse the content when the wiki editors are create the disinformation.

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Post by visarga »

goles wrote: post #2

While this may be a particularly dangerous way of thinking[1], it might be good that everything on the internet is becoming obviously fake, AI-generated junk. So that peoples attitude toward things that are real or borderline but are manipulated by bad actors, whatever their motivations may be, also lose some of their influence over the public. And (hopefully) the public becomes more skeptical about everything on the…

AI hallucinations are kindergarten level compared to what humans do online.

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Post by RecycledEle »

whelp_24 wrote: post #62

404 media is really, really anti-ai and especially image generation. In this case stolen isn't as inaccurate as it could be but the article definitely has a strong bias. (Stolen in the same way a musician can steal a chord progression, i.e, not illegal but done faithfully enough sorta unethical)

404 media is lying when they say any image of a man with a wood carving of a dig is stolen.

Copyright does not work that way.

They need to be sued into bankruptcy for defamation.

AI is a wonderful tool that lets anyone creat beautiful images, and the incumbents in the image-faking field are deeply offended by that.

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Post by visarga »

Oras wrote: post #67

There are tutorials showing how to create an AI influencers using mix of text to image and deep fake. Next step will be high quality fake vidoes not just images and those will be even more believable for most of people.

An with AI advancing so fast, they will be better than what most people would create on their own.

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Post by RecycledEle »

everdrive wrote: post #6

This was one of the most obvious outcomes anyone could have and should have predicted. Even when people know an image is fake, it still seems to be able to sway them. The effect we've seen over the past few years is simply likely to become worse: more polarization, more extremism, more inter-group hostility, and more BS online.

> Even when people know an image is fake, it still seems to be able to sway them.

Yes, this has been happening for a long time. This is why fiction literature exists.

If images we know are fake could not move our emotions, nobody would have ever laughed at a cartoon.

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