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Re: Wasm3 entering a minimal maintenance phase

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Post by throwaway290 »

oytis wrote: post #23
throwaway290 wrote: post #20

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> really hoped someone will help get rid of Putin from inside RU by this moment For normal citizens it means to risk own death. The people who think this way would rather leave the country. For oligarchs and elites, yes only putting complete economic lockdown could work. No way to travel and buy yourself or your kids comfy western way of life. Unfortunately sanctions are lax. Eg. Putin's wife lives in EU just fine I…

> For oligarchs and elites, yes only putting complete economic lockdown could work. No way to travel and buy yourself or your kids comfy western way of life. I don't think that can work. Russian elites absolutely value power over Western way of life. Sanctions are only needed to starve Russian economy to a point where it cannot finance war - and it has been a mixed success so far, but in principle can work.

> Russian elites absolutely value power over Western way of life

some elites maybe, but their kids will only be after a couple of generations. It's one thing if you yourself cannot spend time in London but if your kids and relatives also cannot leave and buy a new iphone suddenly you have people to answer to.

Re: Wasm3 entering a minimal maintenance phase

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Post by eitland »

hutzlibu wrote: post #53
daveguy wrote: post #44

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> yet point out and criticize that Neonazism does indeed enjoy broad support there.

This is extremely misleading (and I personally would argue wrong, but I assume good faith on your side) given that Ukrainian support for neo nazism is comparable to countries in western Europe, while russia who attack them is has a lot more neo-nazis, both in absolute numbers but also by percentage.

As for the Azov regiment, here is what wikipedia writes (emphasis mine):

> and allegedly continuing association with far-right groups and neo-Nazi ideology,

Anyone who has followed the war in Ukraine can tell you that Jews and other minorities are heavily represented in modern Azov, including high profile members, which makes accusations about Azov being nazies somewhat ridiculous.

Again, I assume good faith on your side, but please be careful so you don't spread Russian "Z" narratives. It is incredibly damaging.

Re: Wasm3 entering a minimal maintenance phase

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Post by throwaway290 »

throwaway_tt wrote: post #57
delfinom wrote: post #25

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Those weren't "ethnic Russians", but rather their Dagestan colony which is quite Islamic and well, they obviously follow the same outrage news cycles hating on jews. Russia is a giant patchwork of colonies being held together by strongmen and the "ethnic Russians" more or less drain and extract the resources of every minority and send the money all to themselves in Moscow and St Petersburg.

You're completely right here, but I need to add: "ethnic Russians" are too a colony of Moscow, as the federal power puts all Russian regions in the position economic depression with how the mechanism of taxes and internal debt are implemented. Almost all regions are "dotational", which means that the federal government gives them money to cover their budget deficits, but this was not always the case. This isn't about…

Don't forget the regions that supply natural resources for this gas station of a country. They feed Moscow with oil, diamonds, etc. Some of them I think used to require a visa for russians to enter until Putin.

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Post by mdavid626 »

ekianjo wrote: post #15
tkubacki wrote: post #7

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I really hoped someone will help get rid of Putin from inside RU by this moment (I believe there are plenty of who may not necessary love him). EU should really put more cash on table to help UA.

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Of course in our “freedom of speech” democratic western culture you can’t say this. How dare you? Ukraine on its own can’t win this war. Russia has way more reserves, people and resources. Not even talking about nuclear weapons. Do you really think Russia will accept losing this war? A nuclear superpower? Last resort they can send some nukes. So, why continue sending more weapons and money to a war which if escalates we all lose?

Re: Wasm3 entering a minimal maintenance phase

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Post by chx »

hutzlibu wrote: post #53
daveguy wrote: post #44

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> Neonazism does indeed enjoy broad support there.

This is a lie

The very Wikipedia you linked

> Bandera remains a highly controversial figure in Ukraine.

And once Azov got integrated into the army it shed its neonazi members.

This is how propaganda works: take a kernel of truth and spin a whole tapestry of lies out of it

People are not cardboard cutouts. We do not boycott Ford cards because Henry Ford was a nazi sympathizer. We can condemn that and yet recognize him as an industralist who changed society.

Re: Wasm3 entering a minimal maintenance phase

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Post by hutzlibu »

chx wrote: post #75
hutzlibu wrote: post #53

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> Neonazism does indeed enjoy broad support there. This is a lie The very Wikipedia you linked > Bandera remains a highly controversial figure in Ukraine. And once Azov got integrated into the army it shed its neonazi members. This is how propaganda works: take a kernel of truth and spin a whole tapestry of lies out of it People are not cardboard cutouts. We do not boycott Ford cards because Henry Ford was a nazi sym…

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Re: Wasm3 entering a minimal maintenance phase

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Post by hutzlibu »

neoromantique wrote: post #68
hutzlibu wrote: post #53

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Your own link. Bandera remains a highly controversial figure in Ukraine.[9] Many Ukrainians hail him as a role model hero,[10][11] or as a martyred liberation fighter,[12] while other Ukrainians, particularly in the south and east, condemn him as a fascist,[13] or Nazi collaborator,[10] whose followers, called Banderites, were responsible for massacres of Polish and Jewish civilians during World War II.[14][15] On 22…

Yes, my own link:

"Bandera's favorability appeared to shoot up rapidly, with 74% of Ukrainians viewing him favorably according to an April 2022 poll from a Ukrainian research organization."

Re: Wasm3 entering a minimal maintenance phase

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Post by [deleted] »

jraph wrote: post #2

The explanation: > I regret to inform the community that since my house was destroyed by russians who invaded my country, Wasm3 will enter a minimal maintenance phase. At this time, I am unable to continue the development of new features. However, I am committed to keeping the project alive and will actively review and merge incoming Pull Requests. I deeply appreciate your understanding and support during this diffic…

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Re: Wasm3 entering a minimal maintenance phase

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Post by neoromantique »

hutzlibu wrote: post #77
neoromantique wrote: post #68

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Your own link. Bandera remains a highly controversial figure in Ukraine.[9] Many Ukrainians hail him as a role model hero,[10][11] or as a martyred liberation fighter,[12] while other Ukrainians, particularly in the south and east, condemn him as a fascist,[13] or Nazi collaborator,[10] whose followers, called Banderites, were responsible for massacres of Polish and Jewish civilians during World War II.[14][15] On 22…

Yes, my own link: "Bandera's favorability appeared to shoot up rapidly, with 74% of Ukrainians viewing him favorably according to an April 2022 poll from a Ukrainian research organization."

I wonder what happened prior to April 2022 that would explain a significant jump?

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Post by cmrdporcupine »

mdavid626 wrote: post #74
ekianjo wrote: post #15

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Of course in our “freedom of speech” democratic western culture you can’t say this. How dare you? Ukraine on its own can’t win this war. Russia has way more reserves, people and resources. Not even talking about nuclear weapons. Do you really think Russia will accept losing this war? A nuclear superpower? Last resort they can send some nukes. So, why continue sending more weapons and money to a war which if escalates…

There is no way Russia lets off nukes in Ukraine or around this issue. They would have done so already if they were that stupid. It would be completely mutually assured destruction, assuming their nukes even work.

Not to mention Russian civilians are downwind from Ukraine anyways. Radiation fallout would poison the entire region.

Even the use of a "tactical" nuke or chemical weapons would be a red line that NATO would treat as an escalation that would end with the complete elimination of Russian defensive lines from the air and the end of Russian air supremacy in eastern Ukraine, and I'm sure Biden has communicated this very clearly to Putin behind the scenes.

Russia is treading a strategically thin line. Unless Trump gets back in the Whitehouse.

And funny to see you put "freedom of speech" in quotes, while you post in a completely public forum without sanction. Shoot your mouth off wrong in Russia and you'll end up in a jail cell. It sounds more like your problem is that you expect people to just ... agree with you? But the problem is you're wrong.

Behind Ukraine is a giant contiguous geographic area of allies with supplies and armaments superior to Russia's, and an economic & industrial capacity many multiples of it. What is required, is will from leadership and a population that doesn't fall for Russian propaganda, like you have.

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