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Re: Wasm3 entering a minimal maintenance phase
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I really hoped someone will help get rid of Putin from inside RU by this moment (I believe there are plenty of who may not necessary love him). EU should really put more cash on table to help UA.
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> To get more Ukrainians killed for no gain of territory?
How do you see alternative options?
I don't see "okay guys, let's wrap it up" as a thing invaders will accept. It will also mean "you will never return home" or "your family is under occupational regime right now, good luck" for a lot of locals, and that's unlikely this option will be accepted by them.
I think some context may help. Russian government media clearly wrote that Ukrainians should be eradicated as the idea with language forbidden (they say it's "Russian spoiled by Polish" and civilians "suffering the hardships of occupation for the support of nazi regime (with further clarification that everyone is a supporter)". I'm not paraphrasing or exaggerating. I'm almost quoting.
So it's not like they plan to stop on "already captured territories". It would be more of a delay before the next round, like the past few years long ceasefire before 2022. This way the question gets reduced to "at what rate do you want to see your country being dismantled?".
> EU should really put more cash on table to help UA.
More high-tech weaponry like rockets, drones and other stuff will lead to lesser Ukrainian casualties with bigger territorial gains, so that's a better option compared to the current state of things.
Large scale wars usually go on until one of the sides can't continue anymore. Ukrainian government don't have plans to stop anytime soon and surrender may shatter the rest of the country in multiple ways, effectively ending somewhat normal functioning for years or decades to come. Also, military draft goes on and enlisted soldiers will go to battle. So it would be nice and wise to give them some technological advantage.
> People talk lightly about the lives of others when its not theirs on the line
Also, people talk lightly about giving up territory when it's not the territory with their homes on the line.
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If you had lived under Stalin for 15 years and directly experienced 4 million of your countrymen being starved to death under his dictats, the concept of "good" side and "bad" side is messy. Especially when you don't have full access to information - no internet, no newspapers, no radio. The Finns fought on the "bad" side as well, due to the Soviet Union having tried to invade them already two years previously. Ukrai…
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I really hoped someone will help get rid of Putin from inside RU by this moment (I believe there are plenty of who may not necessary love him). EU should really put more cash on table to help UA.
Nationalism is one hell of a drug. And perhaps naive of us to assume that the war in Ukraine is a product only of this one man and his ideas and/or party. Unfortunately Russia seems unusually united in this "operation." EDIT: don't usually complain about downvotes, but WTH people, what did I say that's controversial? Seems some people think this is somehow pro-Russian? It's not.
> don't usually complain about downvotes, but WTH people, what did I say that's controversial?
Sorry, I incorrectly read your statement as blaming "both sides" - I assume I might have been not the only one.
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Russians had zero problem with storming an airport to try to kill jews. The reason they arent doing anything isnt because russians are scared. The reason is most russians dont want russia to loose the war and surrender to Ukraine and give up Crimea. Even Navalny said he would continue the occupation of crimea if he replaced Putin.
Those weren't "ethnic Russians", but rather their Dagestan colony which is quite Islamic and well, they obviously follow the same outrage news cycles hating on jews. Russia is a giant patchwork of colonies being held together by strongmen and the "ethnic Russians" more or less drain and extract the resources of every minority and send the money all to themselves in Moscow and St Petersburg.
You're completely right here, but I need to add: "ethnic Russians" are too a colony of Moscow, as the federal power puts all Russian regions in the position economic depression with how the mechanism of taxes and internal debt are implemented. Almost all regions are "dotational", which means that the federal government gives them money to cover their budget deficits, but this was not always the case.
This isn't about ethnicity, this is about strongmen in Moscow draining the country to fuel the ambitions and comfort of muscovites.
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>Neonazism does indeed enjoy broad support there. Not any more than US or Russia itself
Are there any official Nazi regiments or heros officially admired by the US? (In Russia you have the motorcyle gang with strong links to neonazism who are buddies with Putin edit: but upon a quick check, that might have been propaganda from the other side).
Re: Wasm3 entering a minimal maintenance phase
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Nationalism is one hell of a drug. And perhaps naive of us to assume that the war in Ukraine is a product only of this one man and his ideas and/or party. Unfortunately Russia seems unusually united in this "operation." EDIT: don't usually complain about downvotes, but WTH people, what did I say that's controversial? Seems some people think this is somehow pro-Russian? It's not.
> don't usually complain about downvotes, but WTH people, what did I say that's controversial? Sorry, I incorrectly read your statement as blaming "both sides" - I assume I might have been not the only one.
Huh, ok, odd, I didn't think I was ambiguous at all.
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>Neonazism does indeed enjoy broad support there. Not any more than US or Russia itself
Are there any official Nazi regiments or heros officially admired by the US? (In Russia you have the motorcyle gang with strong links to neonazism who are buddies with Putin edit: but upon a quick check, that might have been propaganda from the other side).
In Russia? Wagner, Rusich, etc.
Azov on the other hand is not a "Nazi regiment", it's had troubling beginnings but it was cleared up as it was brought into army ranks.
EDIT: misread the question, in US there aren't 'regiments', but denying the fact that army is rife with supremacists is plain silly.
[Any] Army by itself is a magnet for these sorts of folks, and it takes active effort to weed them out, not something that a country at war can easily afford.