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Widespread FBI abuse of foreign spy law sets off "alarm bells," tech group says

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Re: Widespread FBI abuse of foreign spy law sets off "alarm bells," tech group says

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I can’t believe the reveal that FBI used section 702 to target January 6 participants wasn’t enough to get at least one faction in the House to vote against reauthorizing the bill last week. (I will play any card I can if it gets warrantless spying stopped.) I guess Big Brother trumps petty partisanship concerns. NYT had an article a few months ago (I submitted it here) attacking Republicans for turning against the F…

The final line is always between the ruling class and the working class.

Re: Widespread FBI abuse of foreign spy law sets off "alarm bells," tech group says

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Yep. It’s atrocious and deeply worrying behavior by a state that seems to have forgotten that their rights are a blessing from their citizens and not the other way around.

Or the citizens have forgotten or don’t care to hold their leaders accountable

Citizens are all slaves of one corporation or another so speaking their minds is not within their power.

IMO, this is the most infuriating aspect about the censorship push of the past few years. They've already been suppressing freedom of speech using people's livelihoods as a covert form of blackmail... But that wasn't enough and so they had to break the pretense and engage is overt censorship.

Literally everyone who works for a corporation engages in regular self-censorship. This implies that they believe that they may be reprimanded for speaking their thoughts. As someone who has actually spoken their thoughts, I can tell you that it's more than just a belief! The consequences are real.

The executives responsible stepped over the line and should be tried and jailed.

Re: Widespread FBI abuse of foreign spy law sets off "alarm bells," tech group says

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yep. It’s atrocious and deeply worrying behavior by a state that seems to have forgotten that their rights are a blessing from their citizens and not the other way around.

Or the citizens have forgotten or don’t care to hold their leaders accountable

The principles of the enlightenment underneath western civilization are…

Higher power / natural law

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Irrevocable natural rights of individuals

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Revocable rights given to the state for the common good

We can revoke the government’s mandate to rule us at any time. I understand people may have forgotten, or don’t know or have the background to understand, or maybe even don’t care. But that doesn’t change anything about the natural order or founding principles.

The system we are currently headed towards:

State

v

Subjects

This is monarchy / totalitarianism, and while it may be done for all the right reasons, it’s stepping backwards in terms of what’s good for the world, the progress of civilization, and is a failure to learn the profound lessons of the enlightenment that unleashed the greatest period of technology innovation and unrivaled economic expansion in history.

Re: Widespread FBI abuse of foreign spy law sets off "alarm bells," tech group says

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I can’t believe the reveal that FBI used section 702 to target January 6 participants wasn’t enough to get at least one faction in the House to vote against reauthorizing the bill last week. (I will play any card I can if it gets warrantless spying stopped.) I guess Big Brother trumps petty partisanship concerns. NYT had an article a few months ago (I submitted it here) attacking Republicans for turning against the F…

No republican will ever go against the spooks except if they are personally targeted by them (Trump). Even then, Trump wants a fanatically loyal group of spooks to act as his secret police. He's only temporarily against them.

Your only options to vote for if you dislike mass surveillance are hard left progressives (Bernie Sanders, Ron Wyden) or libertarians (though the ones who run with the republicans are unreliable on this issue).

Re: Widespread FBI abuse of foreign spy law sets off "alarm bells," tech group says

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I can’t believe the reveal that FBI used section 702 to target January 6 participants wasn’t enough to get at least one faction in the House to vote against reauthorizing the bill last week. (I will play any card I can if it gets warrantless spying stopped.) I guess Big Brother trumps petty partisanship concerns. NYT had an article a few months ago (I submitted it here) attacking Republicans for turning against the F…

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Re: Widespread FBI abuse of foreign spy law sets off "alarm bells," tech group says

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or the citizens have forgotten or don’t care to hold their leaders accountable

Citizens are all slaves of one corporation or another so speaking their minds is not within their power. IMO, this is the most infuriating aspect about the censorship push of the past few years. They've already been suppressing freedom of speech using people's livelihoods as a covert form of blackmail... But that wasn't enough and so they had to break the pretense and engage is overt censorship. Literally everyone wh…

> Citizens are all slaves of one corporation or another so speaking their minds is not within their power.

Speak for yourself! I work in the private sector and I can’t think of any way my speech is circumscribed by that - unless of course I tried to discuss politics in the workplace, which is simply frowned upon because it’s cringe.

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