> The Man in Black grew up in Dyess, Arkansas, in a community of poor farmers working government land. Similar. I grew up in Arkansas for 6 years of my childhood working on a turkey farm until I was 11~. Hard work ,7 days a week for 6 years working with turkeys and cattle. Something is lost today by most kids being removed from hard work, I think. Defiantly brings a different perspective going from that to working in…
Where Johnny Cash came from
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#73Prior to reading this, my only insight into Cash’s upbringing had been the recording from Folsom Prison in which the warden does a cringe-inducing introduction of Ray Cash, Johnny’s father.
If you want some sort of "definitive" edition, I hold the Legacy Edition [1] in very high regard as it to the best of my knowledge contains the two concerts in their entirety.
[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/At_Folsom_Prison#Legacy_Editio...
Re: Where Johnny Cash came from
#74> The Man in Black grew up in Dyess, Arkansas, in a community of poor farmers working government land. Similar. I grew up in Arkansas for 6 years of my childhood working on a turkey farm until I was 11~. Hard work ,7 days a week for 6 years working with turkeys and cattle. Something is lost today by most kids being removed from hard work, I think. Defiantly brings a different perspective going from that to working in…
I don't think there's any evidence to indicate that the generations who worked through childhood are any better on average. There are folks who turned that into habits that unlocked productivity and happiness in life. There are others who just got exploited. To me, what's important is building the intuition for the connection between practice and achievement, which is a subtly different thing. It's not hard work for…
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#75Earlier quoted context omitted.
I can tell you, my children's lives are IMMENSELY better not having to do hard labor. My childhood was spent on a farm, we all worked or we didn't eat. It was fucking miserable. I wouldn't wish that on anyone who doesn't want it.
Can it be argued that work is miserable for everyone, including children? Current trends doesn't only seek to abolish child worker, it aims to free it from everyone. Of course, whether it'd actually be better for everyone or it'd actually be stable is another can of worm entirely.
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#76> The Man in Black grew up in Dyess, Arkansas, in a community of poor farmers working government land. Similar. I grew up in Arkansas for 6 years of my childhood working on a turkey farm until I was 11~. Hard work ,7 days a week for 6 years working with turkeys and cattle. Something is lost today by most kids being removed from hard work, I think. Defiantly brings a different perspective going from that to working in…
Of course does hard work shape the mentality in a way that you value the amenities you gain, either in exchange or later in life.
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#78Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't think there's any evidence to indicate that the generations who worked through childhood are any better on average. There are folks who turned that into habits that unlocked productivity and happiness in life. There are others who just got exploited. To me, what's important is building the intuition for the connection between practice and achievement, which is a subtly different thing. It's not hard work for…
I disagree to a point. We see millenials/Gen-Z expecting promotions and large salaries for little to no work history and at most normal productivity. There is definitely a connection missed between effort and reward.
If it was previously common for children to be exploited and lose their childhoods, then I can certainly see how that led the older generations to be such seemingly spineless adults with no self esteem. Abuse does that to people.
Fortunately, it sounds like they (well...most of them...) recognized the damage done by their upbringing and sought to raise their own children better than their parents raised them. Breaking out of the cycle of abuse is a hard thing to do; good on them.
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#79Earlier quoted context omitted.
Can it be argued that work is miserable for everyone, including children? Current trends doesn't only seek to abolish child worker, it aims to free it from everyone. Of course, whether it'd actually be better for everyone or it'd actually be stable is another can of worm entirely.
I think humans are hard wired to work or to at least produce something to find value and I personally think relieving everyone from forced work would produce a lot of aimless and suicidal beings. Not every is going to appreciate the freedom and start producing pottery. I'm wholly aware that I am influenced by a Puritan work ethic
Fuck that
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#80Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't think there's any evidence to indicate that the generations who worked through childhood are any better on average. There are folks who turned that into habits that unlocked productivity and happiness in life. There are others who just got exploited. To me, what's important is building the intuition for the connection between practice and achievement, which is a subtly different thing. It's not hard work for…
I disagree to a point. We see millenials/Gen-Z expecting promotions and large salaries for little to no work history and at most normal productivity. There is definitely a connection missed between effort and reward.