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0% of the phrases of the original Wikipedia "Ship of Theseus" article remain
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Re: 0% of the phrases of the original Wikipedia "Ship of Theseus" article remain
#22Earlier quoted context omitted.
And the first version was pretty rough. It was only a couple of sentences long, and included a bizarre, irrelevant tangent ("a modern embellishment"). It's no surprise that every part of that has long since been replaced. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Permalink/1154003 TBH, the same is probably true of most Wikipedia articles which were created early in the site's history. It took a while for editors to settl…
This is a problem with the Ship of Theseus thought experiment as well. When did the Ship of Theseus become a "ship"? With that being nebulous it becomes even stranger to discuss whether switching out parts compromises its personal identity.
Well, obviously the resolution of this apparent paradox is that things/objects don't actually have any "identity" immanent to them, although in most practical circumstances a notion of objects having identities is both useful and roughly accurate.
Which is what the deflationist explanation from the page seems to allude to?
Re: 0% of the phrases of the original Wikipedia "Ship of Theseus" article remain
#23Earlier quoted context omitted.
And the first version was pretty rough. It was only a couple of sentences long, and included a bizarre, irrelevant tangent ("a modern embellishment"). It's no surprise that every part of that has long since been replaced. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Permalink/1154003 TBH, the same is probably true of most Wikipedia articles which were created early in the site's history. It took a while for editors to settl…
I feel like the overall description from 2003 better explains the concept than the current article: > According to an ancient Greek legend, Theseus had a warship that was preserved as a historical relic by the Athenians. Some of its boards rotted and had to be replaced. After many, many years, many such replacements occurred. Eventually, none of the original boards were present. Philosophers could then debate whether…
We all accepted santa was real at one point right? Like, we grew up and realized hes a fantasy character. I think its perfectly fine to keep the original article, you can discuss whether the history is true or not later in the analysis. Big boys and big girls can accept that some myths are worthy thought experiments implicitly, it doesnt need this language, only to gatekeep the knowledge behind some kind of intellectual sanctity.
Re: 0% of the phrases of the original Wikipedia "Ship of Theseus" article remain
#24Earlier quoted context omitted.
Unlikely. I'm counting 1816 revisions since the article was created 15 July 2003. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ship_of_Theseus&a...
And the first version was pretty rough. It was only a couple of sentences long, and included a bizarre, irrelevant tangent ("a modern embellishment"). It's no surprise that every part of that has long since been replaced. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Permalink/1154003 TBH, the same is probably true of most Wikipedia articles which were created early in the site's history. It took a while for editors to settl…
Ha ha, "a modern embellishment" reads like the quirky early Web.
(I had to go back and see if I had embarrassed myself when I stubbed in an article back in 2004. Meh — but just as well I stopped contributing to Wikipedia.)
Re: 0% of the phrases of the original Wikipedia "Ship of Theseus" article remain
#25Is this an important metric? I’d imagine a lot of articles across Wikipedia change over time and barely resemble the original article… which is a huge benefit, as opposed to printed encyclopaedias
All that matters is that the content is factually accurate, which this seems to be
Re: 0% of the phrases of the original Wikipedia "Ship of Theseus" article remain
#26ok
Re: 0% of the phrases of the original Wikipedia "Ship of Theseus" article remain
#27Is this an important metric? I’d imagine a lot of articles across Wikipedia change over time and barely resemble the original article… which is a huge benefit, as opposed to printed encyclopaedias All that matters is that the content is factually accurate, which this seems to be
It’s not an important metric, but relates quite strongly to the content of the article…
Re: 0% of the phrases of the original Wikipedia "Ship of Theseus" article remain
#28Is this an important metric? I’d imagine a lot of articles across Wikipedia change over time and barely resemble the original article… which is a huge benefit, as opposed to printed encyclopaedias All that matters is that the content is factually accurate, which this seems to be
It's more of an amusing fact, given the topic of the article.
Re: 0% of the phrases of the original Wikipedia "Ship of Theseus" article remain
#29Re: 0% of the phrases of the original Wikipedia "Ship of Theseus" article remain
#30We are all Ships of Theseus.