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Post by phanimahesh »

IshKebab wrote: post #141
drzzhan wrote: post #138

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is it noise-to-signal ratio? Sorry I don't know much about the field but that sounds like something can shutdown ideas like "we can put eeg into transformer and it will work". So may I ask what reference papers that I need to know on this?

Signal to noise ratio is a very basic thing; you can Google it.

They weren't asking what SNR is, but what the typical SNR for eegs in realworld circumstances is.

Even if they were, count them among the lucky 10000 [1] and explaining is nicer. Soon with ai generated spam it feels like searching for anything is going to be worse than useless.

1: https://xkcd.com/1053/

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Post by anonytrary »

Using EEG to predict thought is like looking at the clouds in Mumbai to predict the clouds in Austin. The electrical signal from individual neurons are lost in a sea of large-scale oscillations, which are further blurred by the layers of bone, muscle, and tissue that separate the device from the brain. Bitrate is like 1 bit per second, completely insufficient for most use-cases.

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Post by dexwiz »

demondemidi wrote: post #148
dexwiz wrote: post #53

Everyone is this thread immediately went to mind readers as interrogation. But what about introspection? Many forms of teaching and therapy exist because we are incapable of self analyzing in a completely objective way. Being able to analyze your thought patterns outside your own head could lead to all sorts of improvements. You could find which teaching techniques are actually the most effective. You could objective…

> Everyone is this thread immediately went to mind readers as interrogation. Yes. It's kind of hard to think about the upside of no longer having private thoughts. I'm amazed you can go right to its benefits without realizing the universe-sized hole in the ethics of this. But then again, that's techbro nature.

Every technology has its ups and downs. The same nitrates can grow plants or blow up a building. While blind optimism is bad, it’s depressing how negative discussion surrounding new technology has become. People have become literal luddites.

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Post by ninjaa »

giancarlostoro wrote: post #2

This is very impressive and useful, and horrifying all at once. I imagine it would help a stroke patient, I also imagine it would give out unfiltered thoughts, which might be troublesome.

I am happy though, that we finally may talk about what our unfiltered thoughts are, and how much we are expected to control them or curate them, and how to do so in a psychologically helpful way.

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Post by selcuka »

dexwiz wrote: post #153
demondemidi wrote: post #148

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Everyone is this thread immediately went to mind readers as interrogation. Yes. It's kind of hard to think about the upside of no longer having private thoughts. I'm amazed you can go right to its benefits without realizing the universe-sized hole in the ethics of this. But then again, that's techbro nature.

Every technology has its ups and downs. The same nitrates can grow plants or blow up a building. While blind optimism is bad, it’s depressing how negative discussion surrounding new technology has become. People have become literal luddites.

> Every technology has its ups and downs. The same nitrates can grow plants or blow up a building.

This is like saying "thermonuclear weapon tech has its ups and downs". It is technically correct, but we are talking about the (lack of) balance here. Not being able to think privately could be the end of civilisation as we know it.

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Post by samus »

dexwiz wrote: post #153
demondemidi wrote: post #148

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Everyone is this thread immediately went to mind readers as interrogation. Yes. It's kind of hard to think about the upside of no longer having private thoughts. I'm amazed you can go right to its benefits without realizing the universe-sized hole in the ethics of this. But then again, that's techbro nature.

Every technology has its ups and downs. The same nitrates can grow plants or blow up a building. While blind optimism is bad, it’s depressing how negative discussion surrounding new technology has become. People have become literal luddites.

People have always been luddites in the sense that they want technology used for their benefit, not against them. And it's hard to be optimistic about the impact of new technology considering that the last 20 years saw the normalization of mass surveillance of most of the population. Not to forget the negative impact of the technological developments of the last 200 years on the global environment.

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Post by redeeman »

valine wrote: post #89
jprete wrote: post #66

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I would agree if I didn't think there were really strong incentives and precedents for abuse of the technology.

We have laws that prevent people being subjected to brain surgery against their will. The credit score concept is ridiculous. The real battle will be with law enforcement who get a warrant to look at your brain in an MRI.

yeah, and then we remember the videos from the good old downunder where the cops assaulted parents, chased kids around, pinned them down, and injected them with experimental drugs that turned out to cause worse outcome for their agegroup.. this was a couple of years ago.
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