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Cats kill a staggering number of species across the world

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Re: Cats kill a staggering number of species across the world

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unfortunately, no me neither. I think this issue extends beyond cats, it's the uncontrolled breeding of animals, which imo leads to all sorts of abuse. I find it amazing that anyone can decide I'm going to buy a breeding pair of cats with the end goal of making money. We need to phase out cats and dogs completely. This saddens me deeply because I love my dog but the damage these animals do to the environment is so la…

is this satire?

Pretty sure it’s just bad logic informed by propaganda.

Re: Cats kill a staggering number of species across the world

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I've always said if cats were the size of dogs they would be outlawed. I have 3

There are cats the size of dogs, and they are usually outlawed as pets. Look at cougars, lynx, panthers, tigers, etc.

My understanding is that while wild and vicious, cheetahs and anything smaller doesn't try to attack / eat people.

Re: Cats kill a staggering number of species across the world

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Cats have been domestic pets in the UK since at least the times of Roman civilisation, and have been allowed to roam free for much of that time. It's odd to me that there's such a contrast between attitudes towards cats roaming in Europe (which I would say is completely the norm, particularly in e.g. the UK) and the United States (and now Australia), though perhaps this is just down to different native fauna. > The E…

The UK is more resistant to change than even we Americans are (except for units of measurement).

Just because something has been one way for a long time doesn’t mean it’s good. Cats kill lots of native wild animals, and whether those animal populations would be similar without them is entirely beside the point. In the same way it is inhumane to have dogs rip foxes apart for sport, it is inhumane to allow pet cats to do so too.

That said, good luck stopping it. Feral breeding cat populations would be at best difficult to entirely eradicate.

Re: Cats kill a staggering number of species across the world

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cats is basically the only predator in all those places where until humans came a range of predators had been. The Nature is a cruel machine where everybody becomes old and ill and at that stage majority falls prey to predator (or somebody needs to take care of the carcass otherwise). Like billions of birds end their lifecycle in a year. Human civilization disturbs or breaks the ecosystems, decimating or completely eliminating species, pushes predators out. Humans also bring rats with them (beside many other things rats raid the bird nests for eggs decimating the bird population). In that picture I see the cats as corrective factor, controlling rats and carrying the role of predators pushed out by civilization.

Re: Cats kill a staggering number of species across the world

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I've read multiple times that there've been discussions in a few places around the world to ban cats, or certain breeding of cats to save wildlife, or birds specifically. But I haven't heard any law become real, anyone?

Unfortunately, no me neither. I think this issue extends beyond cats, it's the uncontrolled breeding of animals, which imo leads to all sorts of abuse. I find it amazing that anyone can decide I'm going to buy a breeding pair of cats with the end goal of making money. We need to phase out cats and dogs completely. This saddens me deeply because I love my dog but the damage these animals do to the environment is so la…

> the damage these animals do to the environment is so large I don't think I can truly fathom

Industrial farming just entered the chat.

> Animal companionship is of course the exception but this comes with issues

This is, I think, a significant point, especially for people who are lonely, depressed, disabled, antisocial, etc. Its far more improtant than enjoyment of eating a burger.

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