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The Final Speech from The Great Dictator (1940)

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This could help balance Amazon’s leadership principles.

Yet Jeff Bezos in his podcast appearance yesterday which was a 2h talk said that when data and anecdote disagree to trust the anecdote and gut feeling

It’s easy to focus on philanthropy and feelings after your monolithic megacorp has ground your competition into dust.

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This film is currently streaming on the “max” platform. I watched it a few days ago. It was quite controversial at the time it came out.

Obviously you should not torrent a copy of this 85 year old film as that would further diminish any incentive Chaplin might have to make any more films.

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I always liked this version with music added:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WibmcsEGLKo

I remember sharing a jail cell with a 19-year-old Mexican kid once and we were talking about the guards being assholes and he said "they're like machine men"; and I said "with machine minds and machine hearts?" and he was like "YES! You know it?!" -- it was a good moment, we spent the next few days trying to remember the whole speech.

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I find it ironic that "We think too much and feel to little" appears to contradict the conclusion at the end "Let us fight for a world of reason, a world where science and progress will lead to all men’s happiness."

Paradoxes are beautiful!

It's only a paradox under the widespread myth that reason and feelings are opposites. People who know their science understand that all rational thought is grounded on emotion and deep-rooted feelings.

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It's interesting how statements can sometimes seem contradictory on their own. The first statement may highlight the importance of emotions, while the concluding one emphasizes reason and progress. Together they might suggest a balance between thoughtful reflection and the hope of a rational and progressive world.

This reminds me of “The Wise Mind” from DBT sessions. To find the balance between emotion and reason for wisdom. https://www.therapistaid.com/therapy-worksheet/wise-mind

Interesting read.

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I find it ironic that "We think too much and feel to little" appears to contradict the conclusion at the end "Let us fight for a world of reason, a world where science and progress will lead to all men’s happiness."

Some facts are dangerous.

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I find it ironic that "We think too much and feel to little" appears to contradict the conclusion at the end "Let us fight for a world of reason, a world where science and progress will lead to all men’s happiness."

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> Nazi Germany thought their way to the holocaust.

That's bullshit though. You don't think your way to holocaust, you hate and greed and fear your way to it. Those are all feelings. Even indifference to the violence and death of others is a feeling - or at least fear-driven emotional defense mechanism.

The Nazis weren't "machine men, with machine minds and machine hearts", no matter how much it nicely riffs off machine guns being a relatively new experience for most of the world back then. They weren't Vulcans or Skynet. It's important to study how and why they ended up doing what they did, but science and reason is not it, and tarnishing those aspects of being human is not the right lesson to take from that period of history.

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I don’t see the contradiction. Humans can be emotional and at the same use science to make all humans life better! In fact why would we ever develop any technology that makes life better for others if we don’t have any feelings for them?

The contradiction arises because the user "flashback" depicts it as an either-or scenario. It shouldn't be interpreted as an exclusive OR statement; instead, there might be a nuanced interplay between thinking and feeling.

I think feel isn't precise enough, maybe compassion is better? In the speech, Chaplain opposes the Nazis, yet the main tool the Nazis used to gain and hold power in Germany was by emotion, distributed thru speeches on the radio especially. Hitler was a highly emotional speaker. WWII didn't occur due to a lack of feeling.
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