Anyway, I like the vision here, and am glad to see someone tackling things from this perspective.
Chimera Linux
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Re: Chimera Linux
#152Earlier quoted context omitted.
Happy chimera user here. It feels fast in regular usage though I use ssh much more than desktop. What’s actually amazing about chimera is the musl + clang/llvm/compiler-rt combination. It allows you to do all kinds of amazing things easily from a programming perspective. The apk 3 package manager, build system (cbuild) is also excellent. Everything feels modern and clean. Package availability is still limited and you…
On Void, installing clang results in a massive 120MB libLLVM-15.so along with a number of other hefty shared libaries. 50+ MB, 30+ MB and so on. As such, I have stuck with GCC which requires much less space. Is this any different on Chimera.
I have 2TB of internal SSD storage on my laptop, and I can buy extra TB's for $50 each.
Why on earth would I balk at 100MB?
Some webpages serve half of that in optimized images for crying out loud, lol.
Re: Chimera Linux
#153If you are along time GNU user (meaning GNU grep, sed, less, awk, find, tar, etc., etc.) this will be way more frustrating than you realize to use. Having lived in the UNIX days, I can still remember the subtle differences in all the command-line tools driving me nuts. This is actually how the GNU tools became popular even before Linux was a thing, you could install them on irix, hpux, sun, any UNIX, and you wouldn't…
Re: Chimera Linux
#154Even though I do not fully agree, I think this project has one of the most mature, nuanced, and balanced takes on systemd I have seen yet [0]. [0]: https://chimera-linux.org/docs/faq#what-is-the-projects-take...
Yeah pretty interesting. Personally I never liked systemd because I just didn't see the need for it and I don't like changes forced on me. I'm not a team player and I hate being told to 'just go with the flow'. The whole idea of FOSS for me is to be in control of my computer. Alnd I just don't like the character of Poettering and yes that matters. For a much more extreme example look at ReiserFS. It was totally shitc…
I assume you forgot a word here and intended to write "changing stuff around for the sake of changing things"?
I just want to set the record straight: systemd solves the startup-dependency problem. Yes the old default init scripts worked fine for your system (that probably had very few services installed other than vanilla defaults), but it was insufficient for handling the exploding cascade of dependencies when service1 depends on the network, service2 depends on the graphical subsystem, service3 (the wifi daemon) can restart the network, etc. People tried in vain, hacked nasty rc.init scripts for years, until Poettering took matters into his own hands.
I will stop there because I dont know the whole history behind it, but I just take issue with the attitude that systemd in particular is just kids messing around with the latest-new-thing. Some of that does exist in the Linux sphere, even worse, with some maintainers putting inappropriate images and political messages in their apps[1]. But systemd - as with wayland - solves a problem that had been brewing a long time.I suppose you could almost think of it as a fix for developers instead of end users? I'm not compelling you to use it, just disputing your final point.
[1]. https://www.reddit.com/r/browsers/comments/18izmt4/clarifyin...
Re: Chimera Linux
#155Confusing name considering ChimeraOS which is also Linux based.
https://github.com/ChimeraOS/chimeraos/issues/593
I guess the Chimera OS maintainer was polite about it, and Chimera Linux was pretty under the radar for a while.
The confusion is indeed unfortunate.
Re: Chimera Linux
#156Earlier quoted context omitted.
That strikes me as disingenuous. Can you show me even one example of another person using "nonstandard" in this way as applied to a C library ?
That is really how I meant it. Using Linux for almost 20 years I've found the most important part of having a working system is being on the beaten path. Distros that do too much exotic stuff spend all their time fruitlessly trying to keep up with porting and end up confined to a small user base of OS geekery enthusiasts.
Re: Chimera Linux
#157Earlier quoted context omitted.
Also why when on a macOS system I never felt the urge to install Homebrew or something similar, it is just another UNIX flavour.
How do you usually install software? Always building from source? It's interesting to say that it's "just another UNIX flavour" when the most common flavours today all have some form of package management.
Re: Chimera Linux
#158It's really cool, but I get worried anytime I see something that seems to want to be a user friendly, mainstream distro, after seeing how hard Manjaro tried with the whole "Bring simplicity to the masses" stuff and how many issues they still have. Is this an experimental or hobby distro or does it intend to be something grandma can use? If I had to choose this or BSD, it looks like I'd very strongly considering this…
"""Anyone who's not an Arch/Kali/BSD/suckless enthusiast type has a finely tuned sense of "Oh no, that makes me feel the same way that thinking about a project car does, I'm outta here".""" excellent observation
Re: Chimera Linux
#159Earlier quoted context omitted.
As you imply, it's not really a standard unless there are multiple implementations. I am in favor of standardizing the behavior of libc and having multiple implementations that are commonly used.
I think we should not standardise lunch on Linux. Firstly it will create a lot of acrimony as different people may have opinions. There is already a standard you need to adhere to. It lives one level lower and is the Linux userland-kernel interface i.e the syscall interface.