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Re: Chimera Linux

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Post by wkat4242 »

Hendrikto wrote: post #129

Even though I do not fully agree, I think this project has one of the most mature, nuanced, and balanced takes on systemd I have seen yet [0]. [0]: https://chimera-linux.org/docs/faq#what-is-the-projects-take...

Yeah pretty interesting.

Personally I never liked systemd because I just didn't see the need for it and I don't like changes forced on me. I'm not a team player and I hate being told to 'just go with the flow'. The whole idea of FOSS for me is to be in control of my computer. Alnd I just don't like the character of Poettering and yes that matters. For a much more extreme example look at ReiserFS. It was totally shitcanned after it turned out its creator was an actual murderer.

Of course Poettering is nothing close to that and his biggest fault is being a little socially abrasive and opinionated. I'm just more sensitive to this than others. But I just really hate optionated software.

This probably makes me a "systemd hater" that the article speaks off. I understand as my concerns are indeed a bit petty. But they're mine anyhow.

In the end I moved to BSD. I'm very happy with it now. They don't have the push to constantly changing stuff around for the sake of things like systemd and net-tools.

Re: Chimera Linux

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Post by walteweiss »

prmoustache wrote: post #111
jchw wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It looks quite nice though yeah, the choice of GNOME makes me a little bit less enthused. I wonder if System76's COSMIC will ever take off enough to be a consideration, as I would really like to see a new stable, pragmatic, productivity + user-focused DE take off. Plasma's a bit too buggy, GNOME feels not so pragmatic and definitely not so user-focused, the rest feel like they lack some level of polish and maintenanc…

Gnome is one of my favorite DE as to me it is so easily usable and efficient with maximise use of the keyboard straight out of the box while still being very practical to use with a tactile screen. I do understand that it may not be for everyone but my understanding is that when people say a desktop is not user focused, what they really mean is it isn't focused to people resistant to changes

Totally agree! I came from macOS and I like modern Gnome 45 even more the one I used back in 2008, v.2 or something like that.

Re: Chimera Linux

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Post by walteweiss »

ekianjo wrote: post #52
Levitating wrote: post #36

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> Is this an experimental or hobby distro or does it intend to be something grandma can use? It's an experimental hobby distro. If you want something grandma can use, you want to use use something everyone uses. Chimera is fairly niche and goes against all standards. You're always going to run into Chimera specific issues. Chimera also has a nice transparant build system that one can tinker with. As for Manjaro, I do…

> Manjaro developers just suck This. They cant even be trusted to renew their certificate 4 times in a row. The level of incompetency reaches new highs.

Oh thank you guys, I was worried the hacker news crowd has become that incompetent to start praising Manjaro.

Re: Chimera Linux

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Post by rahen »

stunpix wrote: post #143

Not enough fragmentation! We need more! MORE!!!

Linux is an anarchy, a hacker playground where anyone can pick the parts he likes the most and contribute new ones.

If you want a monolithic, standardized, opinionated Unix, you may want to try macOS.

Re: Chimera Linux

#146

Post by rahen »

pzmarzly wrote: post #116

If someone is also looking for more details on dinit, here is the repo: https://github.com/davmac314/dinit

Thank you. Could you give summarize the main differences in approach between dinit and S6? I find S6 a stellar init system, so I'm interested.

Re: Chimera Linux

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Post by maleldil »

pjmlp wrote: post #122
simonh wrote: post #118

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Oh sure, I still remember getting my first 1/4” tape of the GNU tools source code through the post. This is why it’s so hilarious to me when the kids nowadays complain that MacOS has different command line tools to Linux. “Why can’t they just use GNU?”. Get off my lawn! ;)

Also why when on a macOS system I never felt the urge to install Homebrew or something similar, it is just another UNIX flavour.

How do you usually install software? Always building from source?

It's interesting to say that it's "just another UNIX flavour" when the most common flavours today all have some form of package management.

Re: Chimera Linux

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Post by christophilus »

sirsinsalot wrote: post #133
nilsherzig wrote: post #112

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What Gnome do you think doesn't feel user focused? I use 90% of the time minimalist window manager, but when I need a full desktop I find Gnome the best choice. Gnome isn't particularly exciting, but in my experience, everything I can't say about other desktops just works. Apart from that, Adwaita looks incredibly much better Qt.

I can't get past most apps having a title bar / chrome that feels like 1/3 of the window.

That was my biggest beef as well. However, I spend 99% of my time in foot (a snappy terminal which I configured to have no title bar) and Firefox (which doesn’t have the fat title bar). So, in practice, it hasn’t bothered me at all.

Re: Chimera Linux

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Post by Santosh83 »

tomphoolery wrote: post #115

Interesting take on SystemD. I personally find it very helpful, but one of its major downsides as a project is that it is, to borrow a quote from Benno Rice, "aggressively Linux-specific". That said, it appears their own software choices prevent them from using it as summarized in the following quote: > That’s why one of the goals in Chimera is to implement the actual useful systemd functionality, but independently a…

I think SystemD moves too fast, is too opinionated, and is too sprawling for those who're capable of porting it, to actually want to do that work, instead of writing a partial replacement, like this project does.
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