Microsoft forced people to install their browser (2010)
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Microsoft forced people to install their browser (2010)
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Re: Microsoft forced people to install their browser (2010)
#2Besides the highly questionable business ethics discussed in this article, IE just plain sucked. On one medium-sized project I worked on back then, I calculated that around 30% of the code was there just to work around various IE bullshittery.
I have to smile when I see young people complaining about Safari incompatibilities now. You have no idea, young padawans. :-)
Re: Microsoft forced people to install their browser (2010)
#3Still makes me wonder why the iPhone and android are allowed to exist in their current form.
Re: Microsoft forced people to install their browser (2010)
#4Still makes me wonder why the iPhone and android are allowed to exist in their current form.
Because instead of one company with 95% market share, it's two companies with 50% market share each. This makes every argument more complicated since you have to refute "if you don't like one you're free to buy the other"
Re: Microsoft forced people to install their browser (2010)
#5Still makes me wonder why the iPhone and android are allowed to exist in their current form.
Because instead of one company with 95% market share, it's two companies with 50% market share each. This makes every argument more complicated since you have to refute "if you don't like one you're free to buy the other"
That’s how we end up with digital feudalism and cartels
Re: Microsoft forced people to install their browser (2010)
#6Besides the highly questionable business ethics discussed in this article, IE just plain sucked. On one medium-sized project I worked on back then, I calculated that around 30% of the code was there just to work around various IE bullshittery. I have to smile when I see young people complaining about Safari incompatibilities now. You have no idea , young padawans. :-)
I used to think it was spelled padouin. Like French style. Anyone think like me?
Re: Microsoft forced people to install their browser (2010)
#7Besides the highly questionable business ethics discussed in this article, IE just plain sucked. On one medium-sized project I worked on back then, I calculated that around 30% of the code was there just to work around various IE bullshittery. I have to smile when I see young people complaining about Safari incompatibilities now. You have no idea , young padawans. :-)
30% of the code but 80% of the time I touched UI.
Re: Microsoft forced people to install their browser (2010)
#8Besides the highly questionable business ethics discussed in this article, IE just plain sucked. On one medium-sized project I worked on back then, I calculated that around 30% of the code was there just to work around various IE bullshittery. I have to smile when I see young people complaining about Safari incompatibilities now. You have no idea , young padawans. :-)
IE had the right box model years ahead of everything else, a better way of doing embeds, an element transformation language that's still ahead of anything you can do with CSS, .... Sure it wasn't "standards compliant" but I don't remember Netscape/Mozilla/Firefox ever changing their behaviour to match a standard, they just got their behaviour declared as the standard and ignored the cases where they didn't.
Re: Microsoft forced people to install their browser (2010)
#9Besides the highly questionable business ethics discussed in this article, IE just plain sucked. On one medium-sized project I worked on back then, I calculated that around 30% of the code was there just to work around various IE bullshittery. I have to smile when I see young people complaining about Safari incompatibilities now. You have no idea , young padawans. :-)
IE had the right box model years ahead of everything else, a better way of doing embeds, an element transformation language that's still ahead of anything you can do with CSS, .... Sure it wasn't "standards compliant" but I don't remember Netscape/Mozilla/Firefox ever changing their behaviour to match a standard, they just got their behaviour declared as the standard and ignored the cases where they didn't.
Not only that, but IE4 was the first browser you could do, what we would now call "web apps". It had a stable javascript implementation and css, which let you create and edit elements dynamically. It really paved the way of how we do things today.
Re: Microsoft forced people to install their browser (2010)
#10Earlier quoted context omitted.
IE had the right box model years ahead of everything else, a better way of doing embeds, an element transformation language that's still ahead of anything you can do with CSS, .... Sure it wasn't "standards compliant" but I don't remember Netscape/Mozilla/Firefox ever changing their behaviour to match a standard, they just got their behaviour declared as the standard and ignored the cases where they didn't.
Not only that, but IE4 was the first browser you could do, what we would now call "web apps". It had a stable javascript implementation and css, which let you create and edit elements dynamically. It really paved the way of how we do things today.
and IE5 introduced dynamic web requests (originally ActiveXObject, then as the familiar XHR) which was way better than holding open a long page response