Tesla driver who killed 2 people while using autopilot must pay $23,000, no jail
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#2$11,500 per human life extinguished for no reason. Tesla can easily cover that cost for the driver.
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#3The incentives in the United States strongly favor pedestrian fatalities and reckless driving. It is insane that killing two people in a car accident is treated with a fine instead of ANY jail time. There’s a reason why fatalities on roadways continue to increase in the US. This is one of them.
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#4Note: the criminal penalties are a conviction, fine and probation. The victims’ “families have separately filed civil lawsuits against Aziz Riad and Tesla that are ongoing.”
Re: Tesla driver who killed 2 people while using autopilot must pay $23,000, no jail
#5$11,500 per human life extinguished for no reason. Tesla can easily cover that cost for the driver.
That's just the criminal penalty. There is still a civil case against both the driver and Tesla; that will likely be substantial.
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#6The incentives in the United States strongly favor pedestrian fatalities and reckless driving. It is insane that killing two people in a car accident is treated with a fine instead of ANY jail time. There’s a reason why fatalities on roadways continue to increase in the US. This is one of them.
> insane that killing two people in a car accident is treated with a fine instead of ANY jail time
Which component of justice— retribution, incapacitation, deterrence, rehabilitation and reparation [1]—is served by jailing this person?
The only one I see is retribution. Given the families are pursuing damages, the reparation prerogative is better served with him out of jail (and not draining his assets fighting prison time).
[1] https://www.unodc.org/e4j/en/crime-prevention-criminal-justi...
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#8The incentives in the United States strongly favor pedestrian fatalities and reckless driving. It is insane that killing two people in a car accident is treated with a fine instead of ANY jail time. There’s a reason why fatalities on roadways continue to increase in the US. This is one of them.
Forget jail time, why can’t we take away driver’s licenses from people who’ve proven they’re a danger to everyone around them? So often when we see fatalities it’ll turn out that the perp had tens of thousands in unpaid tickets.
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#9The incentives in the United States strongly favor pedestrian fatalities and reckless driving. It is insane that killing two people in a car accident is treated with a fine instead of ANY jail time. There’s a reason why fatalities on roadways continue to increase in the US. This is one of them.
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#10The incentives in the United States strongly favor pedestrian fatalities and reckless driving. It is insane that killing two people in a car accident is treated with a fine instead of ANY jail time. There’s a reason why fatalities on roadways continue to increase in the US. This is one of them.
> insane that killing two people in a car accident is treated with a fine instead of ANY jail time Which component of justice— retribution, incapacitation, deterrence, rehabilitation and reparation [1]—is served by jailing this person? The only one I see is retribution. Given the families are pursuing damages, the reparation prerogative is better served with him out of jail (and not draining his assets fighting priso…
What was this guy doing while the vehicle he was supposed to be controlling ran a red light at more than twice the posted speed limit? The article is lacking on details here.
If he was, say, watching a movie on his phone, then he should go to jail to deter others from watching movies on their phones.