Apple responds to the Beeper iMessage saga: 'We took steps to protect our users'
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Re: Apple responds to the Beeper iMessage saga: 'We took steps to protect our users'
#2In other words, Apple wants to control who enters their garden. Not surprised and not sure I disagree. Why is it that Beeper, or anyone else that isn’t Apple gets to decide who uses iMessage?
Re: Apple responds to the Beeper iMessage saga: 'We took steps to protect our users'
#3I've asked this 3 times across the various threads on this, and have yet to get a 100% confirmed "you are right" answer because I don't know the specifics and I haven't come into anybody who has taken the time to research the answer:
When you log in to iMessage and the various underlying protocols/services, you do it with an Apple ID. Is that Apple ID tied in a one-to-many (but you need at least one) fashion of registered, active, non-flaged-stolen, checked-for-legitimacy hardware IDs/serial #s?
If it isn't, why doesn't Apple do this? Don't they have a database of every device they've sold?
Why would their APIs that handle auth accept something that looks a real serial # instead of an actually real validated serial #? Why don't they check "is this device sitting on a shelf un-sold or does it belong to this account, activated"?
Re: Apple responds to the Beeper iMessage saga: 'We took steps to protect our users'
#4iMessage is just about the only form of communication that I’ve NEVER received any spam through. I get spam SMS all the time and spam calls all the time. I get spam emails 24/7, and even spam DMs on any social media platform that has DMs.
There is no iMessage spam. Apple has it tightly controlled and locked down. I can kinda see why Apple wants to preserve their ecosystem.
But also, there are so many other options in this space. Signal, WhatsApp, etc. Apple is even finally adding RCS support. I don’t understand why so many people want iMessage on other platforms? It’s not that different.
Re: Apple responds to the Beeper iMessage saga: 'We took steps to protect our users'
#5iMessage is just about the only form of communication that I’ve NEVER received any spam through. I get spam SMS all the time and spam calls all the time . I get spam emails 24/7, and even spam DMs on any social media platform that has DMs. There is no iMessage spam. Apple has it tightly controlled and locked down. I can kinda see why Apple wants to preserve their ecosystem. But also, there are so many other options i…
I agree, Apple has no interest in fighting spam from users onboarded by Beeper. That’s likely the biggest issue with this and more generally opening iMessage to wider audience.
Re: Apple responds to the Beeper iMessage saga: 'We took steps to protect our users'
#6In other words, Apple wants to control who enters their garden. Not surprised and not sure I disagree. Why is it that Beeper, or anyone else that isn’t Apple gets to decide who uses iMessage?
>Why is it that Beeper, or anyone else that isn’t Apple gets to decide who uses iMessage?
Beeper doesn't decide that, it only enables.
Re: Apple responds to the Beeper iMessage saga: 'We took steps to protect our users'
#7My comment/joke wasn't so far off, after all:
Re: Apple responds to the Beeper iMessage saga: 'We took steps to protect our users'
#8iMessage is just about the only form of communication that I’ve NEVER received any spam through. I get spam SMS all the time and spam calls all the time . I get spam emails 24/7, and even spam DMs on any social media platform that has DMs. There is no iMessage spam. Apple has it tightly controlled and locked down. I can kinda see why Apple wants to preserve their ecosystem. But also, there are so many other options i…
I get iMessage spam all the time, Apple even has a report spam feature so it’s clearly an issue. I guess you’re just lucky but it definitely exists. I got four just in the last day even.
Re: Apple responds to the Beeper iMessage saga: 'We took steps to protect our users'
#9iMessage is just about the only form of communication that I’ve NEVER received any spam through. I get spam SMS all the time and spam calls all the time . I get spam emails 24/7, and even spam DMs on any social media platform that has DMs. There is no iMessage spam. Apple has it tightly controlled and locked down. I can kinda see why Apple wants to preserve their ecosystem. But also, there are so many other options i…
It's not zero. I receive a few spam iMessages a year.
But it's definitely orders of magnitude below SMS/calls.
Re: Apple responds to the Beeper iMessage saga: 'We took steps to protect our users'
#10iMessage is just about the only form of communication that I’ve NEVER received any spam through. I get spam SMS all the time and spam calls all the time . I get spam emails 24/7, and even spam DMs on any social media platform that has DMs. There is no iMessage spam. Apple has it tightly controlled and locked down. I can kinda see why Apple wants to preserve their ecosystem. But also, there are so many other options i…
It's not zero. I receive a few spam iMessages a year. But it's definitely orders of magnitude below SMS/calls.
>But it's definitely orders of magnitude below SMS/calls.
SMS and call spam are big annoyances but can also be dealt with. On my Android, the Google messaging app is really good at stopping them.
I doubt that Apple doesn't have the tech competency or the money to either build, license or acquire a really good spam filter. Heck, they can acquire every single spam filter company and start-up in the world and their money pile would barely dip.