Google moves to end geofence warrants
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Google moves to end geofence warrants
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Re: Google moves to end geofence warrants
#2forcing government entities to find the individual, get probable cause, and get a warrant for that individual’s possessions is actually the least controversial idea there is
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#3Related big thread yesterday:
Re: Google moves to end geofence warrants
#4If the big tech companies hadn't made surveillance and ads as the defacto business model, letting users own and keep their data would have been the natural evolution from desktop computing to mobile computing. Instead we are stuck with this toxic environment of giving out software for "free" in order to establish a monopoly and then squeezing data out of users.
Re: Google moves to end geofence warrants
#5forcing government entities to find the individual, get probable cause, and get a warrant for that individual’s possessions is actually the least controversial idea there is
I'm way less comfortable with the idea that google gets to decide who sees this data than my government. The right that google is asserting here is the right to sell this data or use it for its own benefit, not the right to keep it private.
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#6If the big tech companies hadn't made surveillance and ads as the defacto business model, letting users own and keep their data would have been the natural evolution from desktop computing to mobile computing. Instead we are stuck with this toxic environment of giving out software for "free" in order to establish a monopoly and then squeezing data out of users.
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Re: Google moves to end geofence warrants
#7forcing government entities to find the individual, get probable cause, and get a warrant for that individual’s possessions is actually the least controversial idea there is
I'm way less comfortable with the idea that google gets to decide who sees this data than my government. The right that google is asserting here is the right to sell this data or use it for its own benefit, not the right to keep it private.
No they are modifying the way it’s collected so that it stays local and they don’t have it at that level of detail.
It’s not an either or. If google has it than the government has it too.
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#9As if this even matters? If you've got a cell phone turned on, it's registered with a tower. Police can still get your location history via tower pings from the cellular providers. I think it sucks that Google is discontinuing this service, because I like being able to go back and see when I was at a particular place. So the police can still do this, but once Google turns off timeline, I can't any longer.
Re: Google moves to end geofence warrants
#10If the big tech companies hadn't made surveillance and ads as the defacto business model, letting users own and keep their data would have been the natural evolution from desktop computing to mobile computing. Instead we are stuck with this toxic environment of giving out software for "free" in order to establish a monopoly and then squeezing data out of users.
>letting users own and keep their data would have been the natural evolution from desktop computing to mobile computing
This simply isn't true. Bias disclaimer, most of my salary is paid by ads.
Is there a lot of money to be made selling data? Sure.
But most of the scenarios of value to customers involve sharing data.
It is crucial to me that my photos are backed up automatically in case I lose my device. It is very convenient and nice that those photos have metadata such that I can search "Berlin" and find photos taken when I'm in Berlin.
It is convenient for me to have one search bar where I can search for "Thai food" and find it near me without having to go into a mapping app and do the search from there (which would also need to reach out to the internet with a query about my current location).
There are societal problems from big data, but the concept of "free" is only one reason we ended up here - data enables a huge number of scenarios which deliver real customer value and which people want.