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Re: OnnxStream: Stable Diffusion XL 1.0 Base on a Raspberry Pi Zero 2

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It reminds me of the time it took to generate mandelbrots on home computers in the 80s.

https://www.klos.com/~john/mandelbrot.jpg

Oh well, I had the 16 kB RAM expansion card. At least with only 64 by 48 pixels to fill we were gaining some of the times we were losing because of the 1 MHz clock.

Re: OnnxStream: Stable Diffusion XL 1.0 Base on a Raspberry Pi Zero 2

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So it’s safe to assume in the next 10 years - AI will be running locally on every device from phones, laptops and even many embedded devices. Even robots- from street cleaning bots to helpful human assistants?

“AI” is already running on every single laptop and phone. If you mean diffusion models (like this), then I’d say it’s 100% guaranteed they’ll run everywhere too, since they’ll get faster and more refined, and processing power keeps growing (it doesn’t even have to grow fast)

Re: OnnxStream: Stable Diffusion XL 1.0 Base on a Raspberry Pi Zero 2

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post #7

So it’s safe to assume in the next 10 years - AI will be running locally on every device from phones, laptops and even many embedded devices. Even robots- from street cleaning bots to helpful human assistants?

The bottleneck is probably the availability of lithography machines that can make ubiquitous chips for processing that much data quickly enough without heating or drawing electricity too much. Not too far in the future every device will have some 5nm or better tech LLM chip inside and devices understanding natural language will be the norm. By dumb machines, people will mean machines that have to be programmed by peo…

I really don’t buy that last paragraph. It’s the idea the AI Pin founders keep saying - you don’t want apps, the device chooses it for you, etc. In a world where you have economical choice, that’s quite hard to imagine: would there be no competition? What good is it for you if you can’t even choose what music app you want? Without _something_ like an app, how do you even know what you can interact with?

Re: OnnxStream: Stable Diffusion XL 1.0 Base on a Raspberry Pi Zero 2

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So it’s safe to assume in the next 10 years - AI will be running locally on every device from phones, laptops and even many embedded devices. Even robots- from street cleaning bots to helpful human assistants?

That's optimistic. We don't even run the humble word processor locally anymore. Everything is cloud, cloud, cloud.

You don’t run it because you don’t want to, not because the device can’t run it

Re: OnnxStream: Stable Diffusion XL 1.0 Base on a Raspberry Pi Zero 2

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The bottleneck is probably the availability of lithography machines that can make ubiquitous chips for processing that much data quickly enough without heating or drawing electricity too much. Not too far in the future every device will have some 5nm or better tech LLM chip inside and devices understanding natural language will be the norm. By dumb machines, people will mean machines that have to be programmed by peo…

I really don’t buy that last paragraph. It’s the idea the AI Pin founders keep saying - you don’t want apps, the device chooses it for you, etc. In a world where you have economical choice, that’s quite hard to imagine: would there be no competition? What good is it for you if you can’t even choose what music app you want? Without _something_ like an app, how do you even know what you can interact with?

> Without _something_ like an app, how do you even know what you can interact with?

You just tell what you need or want and the AI will suggest you options.

>What good is it for you if you can’t even choose what music app you want?

You don't want a music app, you want to listen to music. The AI will simply play it to you and any additional features that you might like will be available. Feel like doing karaoke? Just tell to the AI. Want more songs like this? Tell it to the AI. Not sure what you want? Tell the AI that you are not sure and ask for suggestions, maybe vaguely describe how you feel. You get the idea.

> would there be no competition? There would, but not in the current sense.

Maybe there would be experience designers and knowledge brokers. The AI might tell you that you will need a weather info subscription if you need something specific that is not provided by your current subscriptions. Maybe you want some specific recipe from a home lighting style from a designer? The AI can help you purchase and apply that. Maybe you want to try dating? It wouldn't be an app but a subscription you can join and the AI will handle the UX.

However, I think there will be games because games are apps whose value comes from interaction with the app itself.

Re: OnnxStream: Stable Diffusion XL 1.0 Base on a Raspberry Pi Zero 2

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post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I really don’t buy that last paragraph. It’s the idea the AI Pin founders keep saying - you don’t want apps, the device chooses it for you, etc. In a world where you have economical choice, that’s quite hard to imagine: would there be no competition? What good is it for you if you can’t even choose what music app you want? Without _something_ like an app, how do you even know what you can interact with?

> Without _something_ like an app, how do you even know what you can interact with? You just tell what you need or want and the AI will suggest you options. >What good is it for you if you can’t even choose what music app you want? You don't want a music app, you want to listen to music. The AI will simply play it to you and any additional features that you might like will be available. Feel like doing karaoke? Just…

I absolutely 100% want youtube music because it has the music I want and I have my playlists there. That entire argument of “you don’t want X” is misguided.

Maybe for someone whose first computer ever is that AI panopticon, then sure. But will all music be free? What about netflix? Will it also be free? What happens to competition? Or choice of brands?

Re: OnnxStream: Stable Diffusion XL 1.0 Base on a Raspberry Pi Zero 2

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post #75
post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I really don’t buy that last paragraph. It’s the idea the AI Pin founders keep saying - you don’t want apps, the device chooses it for you, etc. In a world where you have economical choice, that’s quite hard to imagine: would there be no competition? What good is it for you if you can’t even choose what music app you want? Without _something_ like an app, how do you even know what you can interact with?

> Without _something_ like an app, how do you even know what you can interact with? You just tell what you need or want and the AI will suggest you options. >What good is it for you if you can’t even choose what music app you want? You don't want a music app, you want to listen to music. The AI will simply play it to you and any additional features that you might like will be available. Feel like doing karaoke? Just…

> Maybe you want to try dating? It wouldn't be an app but a subscription you can join and the AI will handle the UX.

A subscription to.. an app?

Re: OnnxStream: Stable Diffusion XL 1.0 Base on a Raspberry Pi Zero 2

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post #77
post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Without _something_ like an app, how do you even know what you can interact with? You just tell what you need or want and the AI will suggest you options. >What good is it for you if you can’t even choose what music app you want? You don't want a music app, you want to listen to music. The AI will simply play it to you and any additional features that you might like will be available. Feel like doing karaoke? Just…

> Maybe you want to try dating? It wouldn't be an app but a subscription you can join and the AI will handle the UX. A subscription to.. an app?

To a service. No more apps anymore, the app is the AI who can mediate as a UI to anything.

Re: OnnxStream: Stable Diffusion XL 1.0 Base on a Raspberry Pi Zero 2

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post #76
post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Without _something_ like an app, how do you even know what you can interact with? You just tell what you need or want and the AI will suggest you options. >What good is it for you if you can’t even choose what music app you want? You don't want a music app, you want to listen to music. The AI will simply play it to you and any additional features that you might like will be available. Feel like doing karaoke? Just…

I absolutely 100% want youtube music because it has the music I want and I have my playlists there. That entire argument of “you don’t want X” is misguided. Maybe for someone whose first computer ever is that AI panopticon, then sure. But will all music be free? What about netflix? Will it also be free? What happens to competition? Or choice of brands?

Music will still be like Spotify IMHO, you will pay a monthly subscription. There wouldn't be an app, like everything else.

Re: OnnxStream: Stable Diffusion XL 1.0 Base on a Raspberry Pi Zero 2

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post #79
post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I absolutely 100% want youtube music because it has the music I want and I have my playlists there. That entire argument of “you don’t want X” is misguided. Maybe for someone whose first computer ever is that AI panopticon, then sure. But will all music be free? What about netflix? Will it also be free? What happens to competition? Or choice of brands?

Music will still be like Spotify IMHO, you will pay a monthly subscription. There wouldn't be an app, like everything else.

How about something like photoshop? Or a text editor for when I want to write a book?
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