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Re: Voyager 1 stops communicating with Earth

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If NASA can't contact it again and it has bravely gone into the great darkness alone with a piece of us, let's hope it's eventually found by a race capable of understanding the fragment of memory it carries. If you're lost V'ger, safe travels.

A race?

Re: Voyager 1 stops communicating with Earth

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Maybe you're the right person to ask. How do we know that the sun-particle-sensor or its wiring harness or one of its connectors simply hadn't failed?

A very valid question. In this case IIRC this drop-off in low-energy solar wind particles was correlated with observed changes in the magnetic field and also an increase in higher-energy cosmogenic particles all around the same time. These three phenomena (observed by different instruments) were theoretically predicted to occur at the heliopause transition. So it lends much more confidence to the interpretation of th…

And hopefully Voyager 2’s measurements will confirm this. I don’t know how long we need to wait though.

Re: Voyager 1 stops communicating with Earth

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Why isn't it linear?

Assuming you're talking about the overall sharp drop-off and not the bounce-backs, this was my favorite way to explain it to students: We live near the ocean, and we have a rocky shoreline. We have a couple coves nearby. One cove is about the a half-mile across, but the opening to the larger bay nearby is just a couple hundred feet. On most days, the cove is really calm and the bay has roughly two foot waves. So, you…

This is a terrible explanation. It's about a completely different thing, it's fundamentally wrong, and it doesn't even make sense! Space is not shaped like a bay and Voyager is measuring a decrease in particles not an increase.

Re: Voyager 1 stops communicating with Earth

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I feel like the voyager spacecraft are a part of me, growing up in the 80s marvelling at all the images they sent back it was a magical time. The idea of voyager going dark feels like losing a part of myself.

It's proven to be a hardy spacecraft and has defied a lot of seemingly terminal problems before, fingers crossed she can overcome this one too.

God speed Voyager.

Re: Voyager 1 stops communicating with Earth

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I always have a sense of pride and a feeling of respect for us as a human race when reading about V'ger. It's astonishing that we were able to send a space probe, designed and built to be so robust that it's still doing its thing and sending us postcards after 46 years(!!!) of flying away from us in an extremely harmful environment, while we still fuck simple stuff up back home.

What the US accomplished from 1950-1980 is incredible.

The atomic bomb triggering large investments in physics education and research has a lot to do with it.

Re: Voyager 1 stops communicating with Earth

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That was the pinnacle. Now we're too busy with wealth extraction and making a couple of dudes ever richer.

Even if your cynical doom porn is true you’re wrong because both of those people, 1 in particular, are pushing space exploration forward.

The fact that you think that in 2023 we have to rely on "benevolent" billionaires to push space exploration forward just proves their point.

Re: Voyager 1 stops communicating with Earth

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One of my favorite tech legends is that apparently Voyager 1 launched with a Viterbi encoder, even though there was no computer on Earth at the time fast enough to decode it. After a number of years Moore's Law caught up and they remotely switched over to Viterbi for more efficient transmissions.

The notion that encoding/transmitting could be simpler than decoding/receiving is interesting. It reminds me of the way optical drives for many years could write at, say, 48x but read at 8x, such that the majority of time spent was the verification step (if enabled) rather than the burn step. Just speculating, I assume it's because of things like error correction, filtering out noise/degradation. Producing the extra…

Yeah. Sorry to tell you this, but the speculation / analysis is on incorrect premises.

It was never faster to write than it was to read.

Re: Voyager 1 stops communicating with Earth

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post #135

If NASA can't contact it again and it has bravely gone into the great darkness alone with a piece of us, let's hope it's eventually found by a race capable of understanding the fragment of memory it carries. If you're lost V'ger, safe travels.

A race?

I think the Asians would be able to do it.

Re: Voyager 1 stops communicating with Earth

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Always enjoyed this bit below about Voyager 1 a good reminder of how vast the universe is not too mention just to the oort cloud! "Even though Voyager 1 travels about a million miles per day, the spacecraft will take about 300 years to reach the inner boundary of the Oort Cloud and probably another 30,000 years to exit the far side." I have to hope that in the distant future we will hopefully have spaceships that wil…

Wow, so the heliopause is inscribed well, well, well within the port cloud? Insane

Port cloud? I think you've been working in IT for too long.

Re: Voyager 1 stops communicating with Earth

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Always enjoyed this bit below about Voyager 1 a good reminder of how vast the universe is not too mention just to the oort cloud! "Even though Voyager 1 travels about a million miles per day, the spacecraft will take about 300 years to reach the inner boundary of the Oort Cloud and probably another 30,000 years to exit the far side." I have to hope that in the distant future we will hopefully have spaceships that wil…

Might happen sooner than we think, if we can just jumpstart a proper space program and a space economy. Once we pass Voyager I (and II) in the future we could always retrofit it with a newer form of battery (perhaps one that works indefinitely, based on antimatter).
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