Eternal October...?
Google Groups ending support for Usenet
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Re: Google Groups ending support for Usenet
#12Most importantly, > You can continue to view and search for historical Usenet content posted before February 22, 2024 on Google Groups.
But how long until this archive also joins the Google graveyard? If it were another company aside from Google, this might be more encouraging.
Seems like this would be a great job for Internet Archive, but a cursory glance doesn't show it there. I get that the *.binaries could be too much and super illegal, but maybe the text ones.
Re: Google Groups ending support for Usenet
#13Part of the background for this is that over the past month or more, Usenet has been under an unprecedented spam attack from Google Groups that Google isn't doing anything about. People have resorted to filtering everything coming from Google Groups, with a white list, and there are voices calling for de-peering of Google Groups from the Usenet federation.
Sounds like the barbarians are sacking Rome. What happened to mighty Google's thirst for blood and will to dominate the Internet? It feels like they've just started accepting being helpless to stop all this spam.
Re: Google Groups ending support for Usenet
#14Part of the background for this is that over the past month or more, Usenet has been under an unprecedented spam attack from Google Groups that Google isn't doing anything about. People have resorted to filtering everything coming from Google Groups, with a white list, and there are voices calling for de-peering of Google Groups from the Usenet federation.
And it is also /interesting/ that the evil one's [1] blog post mentions "and spam" as a reason for this, but fully fails to mention that 99.8% of the "spam" flood is coming from their own system.
[1]google
Re: Google Groups ending support for Usenet
#15Earlier quoted context omitted.
But how long until this archive also joins the Google graveyard? If it were another company aside from Google, this might be more encouraging.
Seems like this would be a great job for Internet Archive, but a cursory glance doesn't show it there. I get that the *.binaries could be too much and super illegal, but maybe the text ones.
Re: Google Groups ending support for Usenet
#16Most importantly, > You can continue to view and search for historical Usenet content posted before February 22, 2024 on Google Groups.
Google has a history of not living up to that particular claim:
https://www.electricmonk.nl/log/2005/12/21/how-google-fucked...
https://thenextweb.com/news/google-groups-stopped-indexing-u...
https://www.vice.com/en/article/jp5a77/google-a-search-compa...
https://www.reddit.com/r/usenet/comments/3ggogo/google_has_l...
https://groups.google.com/g/comp.arch.embedded/c/zKo883p9AJQ
Re: Google Groups ending support for Usenet
#17[flagged]
> nobody gets kicked out by brownshirts for expressing their view.
What about spam? Is the expectation that it's your obligation to filter it client-side?
Re: Google Groups ending support for Usenet
#18Part of the background for this is that over the past month or more, Usenet has been under an unprecedented spam attack from Google Groups that Google isn't doing anything about. People have resorted to filtering everything coming from Google Groups, with a white list, and there are voices calling for de-peering of Google Groups from the Usenet federation.
Sounds like the barbarians are sacking Rome. What happened to mighty Google's thirst for blood and will to dominate the Internet? It feels like they've just started accepting being helpless to stop all this spam.
How much money is Google making from Usenet support?
Re: Google Groups ending support for Usenet
#19[flagged]
> 2) There is no administrative ostracism. Nobody gets kicked out by brownshirts for expressing their view.
To be clear, you are on record as equating content moderation on private platforms with Nazism:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sturmabteilung#:~:text=The%20S....
Re: Google Groups ending support for Usenet
#20The nightmare is over? I've used Usenet for years. Most serious users filter out any post originating from G2 to do away with Google posts. It's been a huge source of spam and annoyance. Usenet gets better as it gets smaller, honestly. Most groups are carcasses these days, but several have regular use. comp.misc, misc.news.internet.discuss, and sci.misc are active. Several groups in the comp* hierarchy are active. Th…
Is there a broader tutorial for this, newsgroups mostly missed me, I don't really grok how they fit into the greater internet or how their hosting works or why you have to pay a separate provider