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JWST Captures Image of Supernova That 'Absolutely Shattered' a Star

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Re: JWST Captures Image of Supernova That 'Absolutely Shattered' a Star

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It's streaming live right now!

Where!?

I presume they mean in the sky.

Not sure if anyone is relaying it over the Internet, but I looked it up, and the remnants will last for at the very least hundreds of years:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supernova_remnant

Re: JWST Captures Image of Supernova That 'Absolutely Shattered' a Star

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post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Where!?

I presume they mean in the sky. Not sure if anyone is relaying it over the Internet, but I looked it up, and the remnants will last for at the very least hundreds of years: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supernova_remnant

Ah but nowhere to see a livestream of from JWST right now?

Re: JWST Captures Image of Supernova That 'Absolutely Shattered' a Star

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post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I presume they mean in the sky. Not sure if anyone is relaying it over the Internet, but I looked it up, and the remnants will last for at the very least hundreds of years: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supernova_remnant

Ah but nowhere to see a livestream of from JWST right now?

I'd like to know too. I wonder if they have something like CERN for open data and streaming:

https://opendata.cern.ch/

Re: JWST Captures Image of Supernova That 'Absolutely Shattered' a Star

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> The star collapses in an explosion Can anyone explain the above phrase?

The part keeping a star together is its gravitational pull to all of its pieces. The part keeping it from collapsing is the outward push of its fusion (and also the electrons pushing against each other since they can't all occupy the same space).

This is usually balanced and you have a nice star. When the fusion slows as the star exhausts fuel, gravitational pull dominates and everything falls inward in a collapse. That presses the inner bits together nice and tight, and then the outer bits bounce off it.

So you have a collapse inward with an explosion as everything bounces off. Wikipedia has a nice picture.

Re: JWST Captures Image of Supernova That 'Absolutely Shattered' a Star

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post #43

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Ah but nowhere to see a livestream of from JWST right now?

I'd like to know too. I wonder if they have something like CERN for open data and streaming: https://opendata.cern.ch/

https://mast.stsci.edu/portal/Mashup/Clients/Mast/Portal.htm...

Re: JWST Captures Image of Supernova That 'Absolutely Shattered' a Star

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Amazing photo. At the end of the Netflix documentary about JWST "Unknown: Cosmic Time Machine" they state the telescope data would be available for everyone to use. Is that actually true, or did they mean just these full res images?

I had a quick play with stuff around when the first images were announced. A ton of info is available including stages of processing, details on instruments, info (including Jupyter tutorials) on the Python calibration pipeline, etc. And of course how to access the data.

https://jwst-docs.stsci.edu/getting-started-with-jwst-data seems like a good spot to start.

Re: JWST Captures Image of Supernova That 'Absolutely Shattered' a Star

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Our sun isn’t massive enough to ever go supernova.

Supernova are powerful enough that even a star in a different solar system going nova can kill you, if it's a "nearby" system. But I believe there aren't any stars close enough that would go supernova any time soon.

Every star that is not our sun is in a different solar system. Could you have meant to say a star in a different galaxy could toast us?

I think, ball park, a SN 500 light years out is considered safe e.g. Betelgeuse. Our Milky Way galaxy is thought to be roughly 100,000 light years in diameter so we should be safe from all but those within about a hundredth of the radius of our galaxy from us.

space is big ...

Re: JWST Captures Image of Supernova That 'Absolutely Shattered' a Star

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> The star collapses in an explosion Can anyone explain the above phrase?

The part keeping a star together is its gravitational pull to all of its pieces. The part keeping it from collapsing is the outward push of its fusion (and also the electrons pushing against each other since they can't all occupy the same space). This is usually balanced and you have a nice star. When the fusion slows as the star exhausts fuel, gravitational pull dominates and everything falls inward in a collapse. T…

The first time I came to understand this was in Isaac Asimov's The Collapsing Universe, which described how stars form, function, and die, with the ultimate fate of the very largest being black holes.

https://archive.org/details/collapsinguniver0000asim>

Stars are a contest between gravity and the nuclear strong force, with stellar fusion creating the heat and pressure required to resist, at least for a time, the pull of gravity. The larger a star, the faster it burns through its hydrogen fuel. While brown dwarf stars may have liftimes in the trillions of years, our Sun will expend all its fuel in about 11-12 billion years (it's about half-way through that process now), and will gradually grow hotter and brighter as it does so (it's already about 25% brighter than it was when the Earth was formed). The largest stars have lifespans of only a few million years, roughly dating to when the proto-hominids diverged from their last common ancestor with chimpanzees, and far more recently than the dinosaurs died out.

It's a useful lesson to recall that bigger and more energy-hungry does not necessarily mean longer-lived, and quite often means precisely the opposite.

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/Astro/startime.ht...>

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stellar_evolution>

Re: JWST Captures Image of Supernova That 'Absolutely Shattered' a Star

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Supernova are powerful enough that even a star in a different solar system going nova can kill you, if it's a "nearby" system. But I believe there aren't any stars close enough that would go supernova any time soon.

A good premise for a sci-fi series: In the distant future, a large fleet of earth's best and brightest travels the stars while desperately trying to invent Earth's last ditch-effort to save its 12 billion inhabitants from a soon-to-be cataclysmic, near-earth supernovae: FTL travel. After decades of progress finally nears fruition, the fleet permanently loses contact with earth; humanity's home Solar System's remnants…

Sounds like a cross over of The Age of Supernova and Tri-body Problem. In the former Supernova radiation kills all people on earth except kids under 13.
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