The Stanford Prison Experiment was hugely influential. We learned it was a fraud (2018)
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#3This doesn't necessarily mean that the whole principle of unquestioning obedience when it comes to being asked to do immoral/unethical acts is false. Also, we've probably all had bosses who were a bit too drunk with power. And unfortunately (or perhaps fortunately), due to new ethics regulations, no such experiment could ever be conducted again- Except in real life, as happens every day in repressive countries around the world.
Re: The Stanford Prison Experiment was hugely influential. We learned it was a fraud (2018)
#4Mandatory smbc: https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/zimbardo
Re: The Stanford Prison Experiment was hugely influential. We learned it was a fraud (2018)
#5This doesn't necessarily mean that the whole principle of unquestioning obedience when it comes to being asked to do immoral/unethical acts is false. Also, we've probably all had bosses who were a bit too drunk with power. And unfortunately (or perhaps fortunately), due to new ethics regulations, no such experiment could ever be conducted again- Except in real life, as happens every day in repressive countries around…
Yes it does.
Re: The Stanford Prison Experiment was hugely influential. We learned it was a fraud (2018)
#6"Humankind" by Rutger Bregman also makes a counterpoint to the assumption that all humans are bad. It has a chapter about the Stanford Prison Experiment.
Re: The Stanford Prison Experiment was hugely influential. We learned it was a fraud (2018)
#7This doesn't necessarily mean that the whole principle of unquestioning obedience when it comes to being asked to do immoral/unethical acts is false. Also, we've probably all had bosses who were a bit too drunk with power. And unfortunately (or perhaps fortunately), due to new ethics regulations, no such experiment could ever be conducted again- Except in real life, as happens every day in repressive countries around…
>Also, we've probably all had bosses who were a bit too drunk with power.
Yeah, exactly. This type of real-world experiment is being done inside corporations and other bureaucratic fiefdoms.
I think there's some truth to our order-following, obedient nature but people also seemed to put way too much stock into this particular study. It's just one study.
Re: The Stanford Prison Experiment was hugely influential. We learned it was a fraud (2018)
#8This doesn't necessarily mean that the whole principle of unquestioning obedience when it comes to being asked to do immoral/unethical acts is false. Also, we've probably all had bosses who were a bit too drunk with power. And unfortunately (or perhaps fortunately), due to new ethics regulations, no such experiment could ever be conducted again- Except in real life, as happens every day in repressive countries around…
> This doesn't necessarily mean that the whole principle of unquestioning obedience when it comes to being asked to do immoral/unethical acts is false.
The article didn't claim that the study's conclusion was false. The article only points out that the study was flawed, and therefore cannot be relied upon to draw any conclusions either way. The article is about replication issues in modern science, not about whether people in uniforms can be mean to people.
Re: The Stanford Prison Experiment was hugely influential. We learned it was a fraud (2018)
#9"Humankind" by Rutger Bregman also makes a counterpoint to the assumption that all humans are bad. It has a chapter about the Stanford Prison Experiment.
Thank you! I was just trying to remember the book, it is excellent!
Re: The Stanford Prison Experiment was hugely influential. We learned it was a fraud (2018)
#10This doesn't necessarily mean that the whole principle of unquestioning obedience when it comes to being asked to do immoral/unethical acts is false. Also, we've probably all had bosses who were a bit too drunk with power. And unfortunately (or perhaps fortunately), due to new ethics regulations, no such experiment could ever be conducted again- Except in real life, as happens every day in repressive countries around…
Fair, in that it provides null evidence. My understanding is that there have been several studies that showed that the results specifically did not replicate. Complicating things, this has been somewhat seen as something that is not "universal" and that the general upbringing of the test subjects matters a ton into how they will react to instructions.