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Mitchell reflects as he departs HashiCorp

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Re: Mitchell reflects as he departs HashiCorp

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Is there any one individual or group responsible for HashiCorp's switch to BSL? From what I saw Mitchell let go of running the company and now that HashiCorp is not so cool anymore it's time to get out.

They built a ton of value, were unable to capitalize on it (just like early Docker), and when they tried to capture the value of the thing they built it pissed off the open source ecosystem (and all the profitable companies) built on top. They should have thought about this a long, long time ago. I feel for the smaller companies, but I feel for big companies that come in and plunder because of open license terms.

I recently concocted a (conspiracy) theory that relicensing of HC projects is a ploy to get IBM (or some other company happy to rain on IBM's parade) to finally make an offer. Mitchell leaving the company features in the theory as well. Basically it seems like since at least 2021 HC leadership and/or investors are exploring exit strategies that will bring in the beeeelions.

Re: Mitchell reflects as he departs HashiCorp

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post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a weird take. If anything, Nomad, Consul and Vault are on the ascent, as the realities of the CNCF ecosystem set in for people with results to deliver.

Anecdotally, I've started transitioning more stuff from Nomad/Consul to k8s after Hashicorp's licensing changes. I somehow doubt I'm the only one. Still happily using Vault for now, though.

> Still happily using Vault for now, though.

You should switch to OpenBAO.

Re: Mitchell reflects as he departs HashiCorp

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post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Based on my limited experience Vault is actually becoming a niche tool. Big cloud players have been offering more limited solutions that are good enough for many if not most use cases. A few years ago as a consultant I'd unconditionally recommend Vault to my clients. If I were consulting today, I'd first ask what are they missing from KMS and Secrets Manager.

KMS? Secrets manager? Are those offered by a particular vendor or what

Yeah, they’re AWS secrets management services.

Re: Mitchell reflects as he departs HashiCorp

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We've gone full circle! I originally launched Vagrant here on HN in 2010, which was at the top of HN very briefly for the day. Now here I am 14 years later witnessing my departure post in that very same spot. A strange experience! Thanks for the support over the years. A lot of the initial community for the projects I helped start came from here.

let's go flying

Re: Mitchell reflects as he departs HashiCorp

#68

Mitchell is the only person I can think of who went through the cycle of tinkerer/IC -> founder -> CXO and then back to IC in his own company. Also, his writings on Zig has been tremendously helpful for someone like me who is curious about it. Huge respect from a fellow IC!

IC?

Integrated Circuit. Insatiable Craving. Irrevocable Crust. Indifferent Creator. Ignatios of Constantinople. Instigating Crime. Irritating C**. Individual Contributor. Your guess is as good as mine!

Re: Mitchell reflects as he departs HashiCorp

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post #62
post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They built a ton of value, were unable to capitalize on it (just like early Docker), and when they tried to capture the value of the thing they built it pissed off the open source ecosystem (and all the profitable companies) built on top. They should have thought about this a long, long time ago. I feel for the smaller companies, but I feel for big companies that come in and plunder because of open license terms.

I recently concocted a (conspiracy) theory that relicensing of HC projects is a ploy to get IBM (or some other company happy to rain on IBM's parade) to finally make an offer. Mitchell leaving the company features in the theory as well. Basically it seems like since at least 2021 HC leadership and/or investors are exploring exit strategies that will bring in the beeeelions.

That tracks. IBM acquiring Hashicorp was a persistent rumor I heard during my last year at IBM (timing was not long after the Red Hat acquisition).

Re: Mitchell reflects as he departs HashiCorp

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Mitchell is the only person I can think of who went through the cycle of tinkerer/IC -> founder -> CXO and then back to IC in his own company. Also, his writings on Zig has been tremendously helpful for someone like me who is curious about it. Huge respect from a fellow IC!

IC?

Sorry, thought it was a fairly familiar acronym. IC = individual contributor.
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