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RemindMe! 5 years

Or you could just look at the last 15 years and stop pretending that BTC is anything new. If BTC were a person, it'd be entering high school and thinking about a student-driver license. We've got an extensive history to draw upon now.

A history of bitcoin capturing orders of magnitude more value over basically any 4 year period, yea, the records pretty good for an emerging money.

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It’s maybe not entirely fair to compare crypto to gambling, but I do think it’s worth placing the rise of questionable crypto use cases in context with the increasing acceptance and legalization of gambling, especially online gambling. I remember when I was a kid growing up in the northeast, Atlantic City was still _a thing_ because gambling was not really legal anywhere else. That seems to have changed in the last decade or so and now online gambling and casinos are apparently an acceptable industry to have everywhere. What happened to change this?

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Of all the antagonisms for young adults, I would say an easy method to buy cryptocurrency and hedge against inflation is not one of them. The much more significant antagonist for financially vulnerable young adults is the Federal Reserve and its inflationary monetary policy that has priced many out of ever owning a home. Furthermore, the elite's industrial policy of offshoring manufacturing to China, deindustrializin…

How can the fed both cause inflation and high housing costs? Raising interest rates like they have been doing should lower inflation but make housing more expensive.

First they give free money so house prices skyrocket. 10 years later they "fight" inflation that they caused by making credit scarce.

House prices are sticky and dont drop by 50%.

Also in general the inflation created through interest is not returned by central banks, so they make rich richer and poor poorer.

Re: Coinbase targets financially vulnerable young adults

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Of all the antagonisms for young adults, I would say an easy method to buy cryptocurrency and hedge against inflation is not one of them. The much more significant antagonist for financially vulnerable young adults is the Federal Reserve and its inflationary monetary policy that has priced many out of ever owning a home. Furthermore, the elite's industrial policy of offshoring manufacturing to China, deindustrializin…

> and hedge against inflation is not one of them BTC lost value through the great inflation and is only gaining value today now that inflation is down to 3%. Sounds like a pretty bad hedge against inflation. People need to stop repeating this lie. EDIT: If people need an inflation hedge, buy i-bonds first, and then TIPS after you max out. These are indexed against CPI, so the more inflation happens the more i-bonds/T…

Young adults aren't trying to hedge inflation. They're trying to make a life in a world that recommended poor degree choices and lots of student debt, people increasing in their country faster than housing, a nation and state that taxes them to fund feelgood policies, and that tells them daily that billionaires are the reason they don't have enough money. That's rough.

Re: Coinbase targets financially vulnerable young adults

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Of all the antagonisms for young adults, I would say an easy method to buy cryptocurrency and hedge against inflation is not one of them. The much more significant antagonist for financially vulnerable young adults is the Federal Reserve and its inflationary monetary policy that has priced many out of ever owning a home. Furthermore, the elite's industrial policy of offshoring manufacturing to China, deindustrializin…

How can the fed both cause inflation and high housing costs? Raising interest rates like they have been doing should lower inflation but make housing more expensive.

Raising inflation only lowers house prices if the number of people competing for the houses remains static.

Re: Coinbase targets financially vulnerable young adults

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post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

RemindMe! 5 years

Or you could just look at the last 15 years and stop pretending that BTC is anything new. If BTC were a person, it'd be entering high school and thinking about a student-driver license. We've got an extensive history to draw upon now.

It's funny cause normally we think of high-school aged student drivers as still kinda young and inexperienced. But yeah, now that you put it like that I guess 15 years is pretty ancient for a currency.

Re: Coinbase targets financially vulnerable young adults

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Bitcoin is highly volatile yet safe in the long term. Dollars are stable and lose value over time. What are young people to do with their money? Real estate has a high cost of entry. Retirement accounts tie up their money until late age with rules that may change. Pensions are a thing of the past. Crypto for all its flaws is soaring, less boomer, and allows for ownership of wealth.

Bitcoin is only now recovering to the prices it was a few years ago. In that same time, my investment account is up 15%. I would still be in the red if I didn’t go the boring route.

So personally investing in Bitcoin would have lost me money. So I do not think you can blanket say doing one over the other is a clear choice. The day to day volatility of crypto is absolutely a concern for making any kind of financial planning.

Re: Coinbase targets financially vulnerable young adults

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Or you could just look at the last 15 years and stop pretending that BTC is anything new. If BTC were a person, it'd be entering high school and thinking about a student-driver license. We've got an extensive history to draw upon now.

A history of bitcoin capturing orders of magnitude more value over basically any 4 year period, yea, the records pretty good for an emerging money.

That doesn’t mean it will continue to rise in the future. It also isn’t tied to anything outside of these very expensive exchanges. I can’t use bitcoin to buy a candy bar or pay someone to fix my toilet. Nor is there intrinsic worth to it.

Re: Coinbase targets financially vulnerable young adults

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... as opposed to targeting only "qualified investors", thereby shutting out the vast majority of interested parties from participating? Yes, it's risky. That doesn't mean it should be restricted only to the wealthy.

Right, but the idea is to restrict to those financially sophisticated enough not to be taken for a ride. That after all is what the "qualified investor" concept is actually about, you either are sophisticated enough to know better or wealthy enough to survived not being so. Unfortunately there is no easy way to measure the former, so they take the easy out of something like 1mm liquid assets. Perhaps it should be a cert. instead?
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