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Men should abstain from drinking at least three months prior to conceiving
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Re: Men should abstain from drinking at least three months prior to conceiving
#22Earlier quoted context omitted.
I would say that 3-4 beers several times a week is allot of alcohol. It is an amount where I would definitely start to think that ones life would be degraded in certain ways by the amount of alcohol consumed. Where I live the recommendations are that people that drink 10 or more units of alcohol per week should be provided support from the healthcare system to reduce their drinking.
Exactly. Maybe I’m just a lightweight, but 4 beers is into ‘drunk’ levels for me. Doing that 2 or 3 times a week? Of course that’s going to have health impacts.
Regular drinking exercises your liver and keeps it at peak performance.
(I am not a doctor.)
Re: Men should abstain from drinking at least three months prior to conceiving
#23I've got a couple of questions about this. Maybe they were covered in the paper but I couldn't see the link? Let me know if I missed it. 1. What do they mean by "changes in sperm?" What are they actually measuring here? 2. Is there previous evidence that these changes in sperm are linked to FAS, or are we extrapolating from the known effects of motherly drinking? 3. They say 3-4 beers a couple times a week is enough…
> Alcohol can affect fertility by altering sperm count, size, shape, and motility.
> Animal studies have provided clear evidence that offspring sired by ethanol-exposed males in the absence of maternal ethanol exposure showed more adverse behavioral development11, including increased risk of anxiety- and depression-like behaviors7,10, increased in activity and sensorimotor integration deficits, as well as decreased balance, coordination, and short-term motor learning
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-022-05611-2
https://www.escardio.org/The-ESC/Press-Office/Press-releases...
Re: Men should abstain from drinking at least three months prior to conceiving
#24Would be a lot less kids in the (western) world if men were to follow this advice.
Re: Men should abstain from drinking at least three months prior to conceiving
#25> He also noted that it doesn’t take excessive alcohol use ... > “In the models we’re using, even drinking three to four beers after work several days a week can induce [bad stuff for sperm],” Golding said. “You may not feel inebriated, but your body is going through chemical changes.” Vs. the CDC's current upper limit for "moderate" male drinking is 2 drinks/day, and they're very quick to specify that "a" beer is at…
in northern culture, the CDC's recommendation is laughable. Excessive drinking is a regular thing where its cold
It's probably some deep DNA-induced craving. In the summer I barely want to drink. When it's cold... I want to drink. Maybe it's the Slavic chunk of my DNA.
Re: Men should abstain from drinking at least three months prior to conceiving
#26I've got a couple of questions about this. Maybe they were covered in the paper but I couldn't see the link? Let me know if I missed it. 1. What do they mean by "changes in sperm?" What are they actually measuring here? 2. Is there previous evidence that these changes in sperm are linked to FAS, or are we extrapolating from the known effects of motherly drinking? 3. They say 3-4 beers a couple times a week is enough…
Here is the link https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/andr.13566
Best of luck
Re: Men should abstain from drinking at least three months prior to conceiving
#27> He also noted that it doesn’t take excessive alcohol use ... > “In the models we’re using, even drinking three to four beers after work several days a week can induce [bad stuff for sperm],” Golding said. “You may not feel inebriated, but your body is going through chemical changes.” Vs. the CDC's current upper limit for "moderate" male drinking is 2 drinks/day, and they're very quick to specify that "a" beer is at…
I would say that 3-4 beers several times a week is allot of alcohol. It is an amount where I would definitely start to think that ones life would be degraded in certain ways by the amount of alcohol consumed. Where I live the recommendations are that people that drink 10 or more units of alcohol per week should be provided support from the healthcare system to reduce their drinking.
yet many people still think that having 2 to 6 beers after work every day is somehow normal
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#28Am I missing something - what negative effects are there? > "I need to program the offspring to be able to adapt to that kind of environment" What does this mean?
> Am I missing something - what negative effects are there?
Paragraph 1:
> Researchers at Texas A&M University have already shown that paternal drinking habits prior to conception can have a negative effect on fetal development — with semen from men who regularly consume alcohol impacting placenta development, fetal alcohol syndrome (FAS)-associated brain and facial defects, and even IVF outcomes.
Re: Men should abstain from drinking at least three months prior to conceiving
#29> He also noted that it doesn’t take excessive alcohol use ... > “In the models we’re using, even drinking three to four beers after work several days a week can induce [bad stuff for sperm],” Golding said. “You may not feel inebriated, but your body is going through chemical changes.” Vs. the CDC's current upper limit for "moderate" male drinking is 2 drinks/day, and they're very quick to specify that "a" beer is at…
I would say that 3-4 beers several times a week is allot of alcohol. It is an amount where I would definitely start to think that ones life would be degraded in certain ways by the amount of alcohol consumed. Where I live the recommendations are that people that drink 10 or more units of alcohol per week should be provided support from the healthcare system to reduce their drinking.
> I would say that 3-4 beers several times a week is allot of alcohol.
I agree, I drink on average 1-2 a month, it's going to be 3-4 this month because of extra family and friend gatherings because of the holidays and I'm already feeling like its excessive. The article doesn't answer if my level of drinking would require the same length of abstinence.
Re: Men should abstain from drinking at least three months prior to conceiving
#30Earlier quoted context omitted.
I would say that 3-4 beers several times a week is allot of alcohol. It is an amount where I would definitely start to think that ones life would be degraded in certain ways by the amount of alcohol consumed. Where I live the recommendations are that people that drink 10 or more units of alcohol per week should be provided support from the healthcare system to reduce their drinking.
Exactly. Maybe I’m just a lightweight, but 4 beers is into ‘drunk’ levels for me. Doing that 2 or 3 times a week? Of course that’s going to have health impacts.
It's all about tolerance. Half a pint gets me quite tipsy now because I drink maybe once a month at best, a pint will get me past the sweet spot already. A few years back I could have half a bottle of wine and be in the same perceived state