Turing awardees republished key methods and ideas without credit
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#2Just from the title I knew exactly which awardees we were talking about, and who was going to be doing the talking.
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#3Schmidhuber really needs to stop. He's been beating this drum for decades and he's wrong.
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#4I wonder what Schmidhuber colleagues think of all of this.
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#5Reading the article and some of the links make me feel like the author Jürgen Schmidhuber is the academic version of the patent troll.
It sounds like he published some theoretical musings back in 1990s without any real practical implementation that did anything useful and since then has run around accusing AI researchers who actually produced concrete research and techniques to get are actually in use today of plagiarism.
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#6LeCuna (noun): An empty space in a list of citations where the works of Jürgen Schmidhuber should appear.
Re: Turing awardees republished key methods and ideas without credit
#7I wonder what Schmidhuber colleagues think of all of this.
Within the field his name has become a punchline to joke about self-aggrandizing.
But yeah, you honestly have to wonder what it is like day-to-day working with someone with this level of delusions of grandeur.
Re: Turing awardees republished key methods and ideas without credit
#8Reading the article and some of the links make me feel like the author Jürgen Schmidhuber is the academic version of the patent troll. It sounds like he published some theoretical musings back in 1990s without any real practical implementation that did anything useful and since then has run around accusing AI researchers who actually produced concrete research and techniques to get are actually in use today of plagia…
Regardless, it should be easy to verify. He cites a paper and says it’s done in this earlier paper.
On the other hand, if his claims are verified, some of these research “discoveries” are simply common sense and would occur to most people working on the subject. HLB were awarded to a good extent because they worked on deep learning at the right time. Deep learning became hugely practical, and outperformed the state of the art in many applications. HL also worked for major companies.
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#9We published a paper a while back in a genetic programming conference, and before the paper had been published (only the title was announced) Schmidhuber guessed that we had not cited his work. He very publically put us through the wringer for not citing him as the inventor of the concept were were examining. In fact we had not cited him: but among our dozen or so previous examples, we had cited two others which long predated his work and were the actual seminal papers. He had failed to cite them himself.
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#10Cue the next HBomberguy video, please.