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You Don't Batch Cook When You're Suicidal (2020)

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Post by Taurenking »

cipheredStones wrote: post #213
screye wrote: post #87

Incredible writing. Reading this, I kept feeling a sense that something was missing. It wasn't until later in the blog that I hit me. "Where is her community?" To a 3rd world immigrant, the idea of being this isolated in your the country you were born in, feels unfathomable. Back home, It's common for kids to live with their parents until the kids are ready, often until age 25-30. Alternatively, people will stuff the…

From another article about her: > Before long, Monroe was using a food bank. “It had taken me four or five weeks to pluck up the courage to go. The first time, one of the women looked at me and I looked at her. She went to church with my mum. She said, ‘Your mum will be devastated.’ And I said, ‘You can’t tell anyone. You haven’t seen me.’ She said, ‘Your parents will help you,’ and I said, ‘They can’t know.’” > That…

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Post by mfru »

WendyTheWillow wrote: post #290
yawpitch wrote: post #289

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If Jimmy only ever prototyped the pencil by collecting and working the wood and graphite himself then, sure, he didn’t exploit anyone… as soon as he went into business employing others to manufacture those pencils he started to. The moment he concentrated the means of pencil production in his own hands he started to exploit both his raw suppliers — that graphite miner’s health woes are the fruit of Jimmy’s demand — a…

Jimmy didn't do any of those things. The claim was that Jimmy can't produce value, but he did. And even so, the work the people making the pencils for Jimmy would not exist without Jimmy. Jimmy, in yet another way, provides value. Jimmy figured out to put the wood with the graphite, not them. Who actually does it is irrelevant; or are you suggesting that if Jimmy kept his operation entirely mechanical, that'd be bett…

> the work the people making the pencils for Jimmy would not exist without Jimmy

Apart from this example being overly reductive and not rooted in reality, the hypothetical Jimmy would eventually be replaced by someone else who would invent this pencil.

There is no truth that needs a single person to be uncovered. There are infinitely many people able to invent the pencil given enough tries and time. This also makes the argument of original thought not being original.

We are made and influenced by our surroundings and thus the ideas we form must necessarily be a product of those surroundings.

So, even if Jimmy had the idea to "invent" the pencil, he will not be the first one who did. He might be the first one with enough capital to execute (as in buy machines and factories, hire workers and exploit them for their labor and scale the business to planet-scale) and this is where it gets ugly.

Re: You Don't Batch Cook When You're Suicidal (2020)

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Post by Taurenking »

PuffinBlue wrote: post #156
MichaelRo wrote: post #107

>> My brother was in the RAF last time we spoke >> Sometimes I just want to run back home and live with my parents, at the age of 32, and beg them to take care of me. Well this doesn't sound like someone who is destitute and with no safety net whatsoever. What's so wrong living with your parents? For most of human history it was the normal thing to do. Parents will take care of kids and one of them will inherit the p…

She doesn’t have a car or license. So living in the countryside in the UK is a non-starter. When you’re living life on hard mode already due to poverty and the pernicious destruction of control over your own time that that causes, trying to exist without personal transport and a child is impossible. I know. I’ve experienced it first hand (as the kid). To your point about deliberate choice: What I do recognise from th…

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Post by achenet »

bluedino wrote: post #214
AlexandrB wrote: post #209

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is inconsistent with the fact that average height has increased significantly over the last two centuries[1]. Our genes have not had time to change in that span, but our environment, including access to nutrients, has changed radically. [1] https://ourworldindata.org/human-height

Taller than average people are most successful in certain sport. Basketball, volleyball, etc Shorter than average are very rare in most sports except for some niche positions.

gymnastics and olympic weightlifting actually both favor shorter statures.

Re: You Don't Batch Cook When You're Suicidal (2020)

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Post by achenet »

BizarroLand wrote: post #285
thiago_fm wrote: post #70

That's one big paradox. Coming from poverty, I work with plenty of talented people, but nowhere as talented as the people I've studied in shitty schools. Now most of those people from my poverty times continue to be poor, because of many problems poverty brought to them. I can clearly see that, and that I was the lucky one to find a way up many times. Yet, my new social circle believe that I'm talented because of my…

It's hard to explain what life is like as a formerly very poor™ person to people who have never experienced it. Like, every once in a while I get a craving for poverty comfort foods like ramen with frozen veggies, a slice of American cheese, and a sliced up microwaved hotdog. Or trying to explain why it's so hard for me to let go of a 20 year old pickup truck that still works because I used to sleep in it. Or how no…

you can reprogram your brain.

Journaling and meditation have helped me a lot, and I've heard of others who have had success with therapy.

If these habits/accumulated traumas are causing you pain, know that there are ways to heal that. :)

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Post by NoGravitas »

wins32767 wrote: post #194
hasty_pudding wrote: post #33

One if the worst parts of poverty is that it steals all of your time! All your time is devoted to just surviving, so you can never really better you situation. You want to improve your situation? Not happening, you gotta work 60 hours this week so you cant study for that AWS cert or medical coding cert. Then the job you work is most likely dead end with no advancement or fake advancement. So you live pay check to pay…

> You literally are trapped by capitalism. I'm not sure that capitalism is the creator of poverty. There have been poor throughout history and nearly all of them living in vastly worse material conditions than the poor in modern capitalist societies.

Every oppressive social and economic system has mechanisms to ensure that most people have to work to produce value they don't get to enjoy. Whether that's slavery, the estates of feudalism, or structural unemployment and low wages under capitalism. It's just that the system that OP is specifically trapped by is capitalism.

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Post by bitcharmer »

WendyTheWillow wrote: post #276
yawpitch wrote: post #267

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> a shallow dismissal is less valuable than an excellent critical comment An excellent critical comment is wasted on a shallow argument… your thinking assumes that reaching beyond the metaphorical ceiling doesn’t require standing atop those still struggling to reach the metaphorical floor… it absolutely and necessarily does. Worse, you seem to think that reaching for means that vastly outstrip your need is somehow no…

If Jimmy turns a piece of wood and some graphite into a pencil, he has created value. That didn't require exploiting the lumberjack or the miner. Jimmy did not steal value from either. He created value by inventing a new way for their raw materials to be useful to other people. Jimmy didn't need to "stand atop" anyone to do this. What's "pathetic" are the ad hominems and insults the people in this thread have to reso…

> That didn't require exploiting the lumberjack or the miner. Jimmy did not steal value from either. He created value by inventing a new way for their raw materials to be useful to other people. Jimmy didn't need to "stand atop" anyone to do this.

This is absolutely not where most of billionaires' wealth comes from. You are being naive if you think this is how they make money.

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Post by scythe »

bluedino wrote: post #207
scythe wrote: post #167

The author suggests her work applies to "obesity", but she is not obese. The obesity rate in the UK is 27%; the poverty rate is 17%, and I doubt the overlap is that strong (the link below supports me). Many of her examples in fact deal with people who can't afford things that aren't food, like a kitchen, or free time. On the one hand, it's certainly true that the support for the poor is insufficient, but the price of…

> The obesity rate in the UK is 27%; the poverty rate is 17%, and I doubt the overlap is that strong US, not the UK: Counties with poverty rates of >35% have obesity rates 145% greater than wealthy counties. Back to Europe: The Paradox of Poverty and Obesity Among the reasons for the growing obesity in the population of poor people are: higher unemployment, lower education level, and irregular meals. Another cause of…

>Counties with poverty rates of >35% have obesity rates 145% greater than wealthy counties.

Not causal. Read the rest of the post.

>Among the reasons for the growing obesity in the population of poor people are: higher unemployment, lower education level, and irregular meals.

Claims that should be evidence-based. Again, the correlation between poverty and subsequent obesity vanishes after correction for publication bias.

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Post by avgcorrection »

thaumasiotes wrote: post #294
avgcorrection wrote: post #134

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh my god. https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/original-position/

Are you saying that the family it is born into is a lottery to the baby, or that you wish we would pretend that it is?

I’m saying that you are being deliberately obtuse. Or something worse.

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Post by lostmsu »

latentcall wrote: post #71
0xbadcafebee wrote: post #9

This is a great article. How it ended up on HN I don't know, but can somebody please start submitting more like this, and fewer techno-babble thinkpieces by junior javascript contractors who host their own mail?

Agree, found this really moving and thought provoking.

The only thing you should be moving is her furniture. The only thought it provokes from me is disgust for a person who's stupid decisions end up on my own shoulders and shoulders of my kids.

What she does is endemic in US and nothing good will come from promoting this.

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