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The easier explaination is that those people were going to die of covid (vaccinated or not) didn't. They are sickened by either the virus, the vaccine or both. The robust cytokine storms that occurred in younger people might harm them more than older people.
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Because old folk’s immune systems are already differentiated/less effective
That doesn't mean they can't become less effective from Covid. The article mentions that deaths among the elderly are below pre-pandemic levels, which suggests that any such immune weakening is not the reason for excess deaths.
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That doesn't mean they can't become less effective from Covid. The article mentions that deaths among the elderly are below pre-pandemic levels, which suggests that any such immune weakening is not the reason for excess deaths.
Proportionally. If you used up your naive T-Cells on your way to 60/70s there aren’t many left to lose. Whereas if you dumped them all on a few Covid infections in your 20s and 30s you’d see a proportional uptick in younger deaths alongside the life expectancy drops that we’re also seeing. As for the below pandemic death rate, folks can’t die twice and the aged were dry tinder for SARs
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And? Ivermectin is a notable antiviral medication that many, many Americans took to limit the COVID viral spread in their body. The media's attack on it was purely from a Pharma profit motive.
I don't understand why people don't see the profit motive in "alternative" medicine. There is profit motive everywhere in everything because we live in a market economy. Alternative medicine is a gigantic industry, as is "alternative" media etc. Everyone is making money and people tend to promote the things they are selling. It's the typical populist thing of "I don't trust the establishment anymore, so now I am goin…
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I don't understand why people don't see the profit motive in "alternative" medicine. There is profit motive everywhere in everything because we live in a market economy. Alternative medicine is a gigantic industry, as is "alternative" media etc. Everyone is making money and people tend to promote the things they are selling. It's the typical populist thing of "I don't trust the establishment anymore, so now I am goin…
To be fair reading about Ayurvedic or Traditional Chinese Medicine isn’t lining anyone’s pockets
> With the worst of COVID behind us, annual deaths for all causes should be back to pre-pandemic levels — or even lower because of the loss of so many sick and infirm Americans. Since we now know that Covid can lead to long-term suppression of the immune system and that a significant part of infected people have other lingering issues, this is obviously false.
If Covid immunosuppression is the problem, then why are young people (per the article) a disproportionate share of the excess deaths? > Unlike in the pandemic’s early phase, these deaths are not primarily among the old. For people 65 and over, deaths in the second quarter of 2023 were 6 percent below the pre-pandemic norm, according to a new report from the Society of Actuaries. Mortality was 26 percent higher among…
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Proportionally. If you used up your naive T-Cells on your way to 60/70s there aren’t many left to lose. Whereas if you dumped them all on a few Covid infections in your 20s and 30s you’d see a proportional uptick in younger deaths alongside the life expectancy drops that we’re also seeing. As for the below pandemic death rate, folks can’t die twice and the aged were dry tinder for SARs
IS there some reason to believe you wouldn't have the exact same problem in a pre-Covid world where people are being regularly exposed to colds, flus, RSV, and every other respiratory virus on a constant basis in their 20s and 30s? Why would losing naive T-cells to Covid adaptions be a bigger issue than losing naive T-cells to the zillions of other infections?
It's likely just a matter of being unlucky this time that a well spreading virus stumbled upon this way of avoiding immune system which breaks it.
A bad case of Ebstein-Barr virus (a herpesvirus, causing mononucleosis) can set you down for life, for example. Certain bacteria like ones causing Lyme disease can do it too. You don't hear it talked about because they do not spread as readily.
I've always blamed the rugged individualism mindset common in America.
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How much higher are drug overdoses in 2023 compared to 2019?
The article mentions overdoses. They don't explain the difference. > To some extent, we know what is killing the young, with an actuarial analysis of government data showing mortality increases in liver, kidney and cardiovascular diseases, and diabetes. Drug overdoses also soared nationwide, but not primarily in the young working class.
Edit: and the table on p43 seems to directly contradict their claim that the excess deaths are concentrated among the young "working" as opposed to non-working: Age 15-44 have almost the same percentages (18.9% vs 19.2%) for excess Q2 deaths; the insured cohort is the slightly lower one. "It's probably mostly drug overdoses and COVID" still seems like a reasonable null hypothesis to me.
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And? Ivermectin is a notable antiviral medication that many, many Americans took to limit the COVID viral spread in their body. The media's attack on it was purely from a Pharma profit motive.
I don't understand why people don't see the profit motive in "alternative" medicine. There is profit motive everywhere in everything because we live in a market economy. Alternative medicine is a gigantic industry, as is "alternative" media etc. Everyone is making money and people tend to promote the things they are selling. It's the typical populist thing of "I don't trust the establishment anymore, so now I am goin…