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Re: Quest 2 is outselling Quest 3

#11

Post by cableshaft »

FirmwareBurner wrote: post #6
verdverm wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I primarily bought my Q3 as a holdover to the Visor. I use the Immersed app and AR definitely is a great feature when using a virtual desktop setup, for drinking coffee and using a real keyboard. I secondarily bought it as a Q1 upgrade for entertainment. That being said, the AR features still don't hold a candle to the Hololens 2 experience. The hand and environment recognition are still behind, even after 3+ years,…

I recognize there are legit use cases for AR beyond gimmicks, but for that you need GOOD AR, while the Q3 AR feels kind of janky, half baked and screams of cost cutting compromises. They tried to compromise to get a low priced AR headset to the masses, but in the end fucked it up since the headset is neither low priced enough to be an impulse buy for the masses, nor is the AR good enough to satisfy the tech enthusias…

For my experience so far, the color passthrough on Q3 is good enough for gaming, where you don't really need to read anything too closely, but not good enough to use it at the desk for long periods of time.

And actually the passthrough is okay for that too, it's more that it still feels like the screens need to be a bit higher resolution for the Immersed app to be comfortable long-term over my existing desktop and ultrawide monitor.

It's nice to play ping pong or that shooting at fuzzy ball creatures demo game that came with it and be able to chat with my wife or look down at the dogs as they run by and be able to see them well enough. Looking forward to seeing what other mixed reality games come out later (I'm planning to make something myself at some point also).

I'd still love for it to be better, but I'm still pretty happy with it as it is right now. Apple Vision Pro I suspect will be much, much better, but I can't justify its price tag.

Re: Quest 2 is outselling Quest 3

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Post by endisneigh »

I have 4 Q2s (for the fam). The Q3 is better but not enough better. I tried the Vision Pro, and it’s not even close. Someone who actually really cares about this stuff will buy the Vision.

I mention that only because the increase in quality really needs to be able to be perceived to justify the increase in price. Honestly think the Vision Pro visual fidelity and UX is 10X.

I’m curious how the Q2+Q3 compares with the Vision Pro once out.

Re: Quest 2 is outselling Quest 3

#14

Post by gryn »

FirmwareBurner wrote: post #6
verdverm wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I primarily bought my Q3 as a holdover to the Visor. I use the Immersed app and AR definitely is a great feature when using a virtual desktop setup, for drinking coffee and using a real keyboard. I secondarily bought it as a Q1 upgrade for entertainment. That being said, the AR features still don't hold a candle to the Hololens 2 experience. The hand and environment recognition are still behind, even after 3+ years,…

I recognize there are legit use cases for AR beyond gimmicks, but for that you need GOOD AR, while the Q3 AR feels kind of janky, half baked and screams of cost cutting compromises. They tried to compromise to get a low priced AR headset to the masses, but in the end fucked it up since the headset is neither low priced enough to be an impulse buy for the masses, nor is the AR good enough to satisfy the tech enthusias…

the AR on the quest3 so far for me has been a convenient way for me to check my surroundings or do some little tasks without having to remove the headset, put it back again and re-adjust it. I don't have a quest 2 to compare with but this small gimmick seems like a small but important win to me.

Re: Quest 2 is outselling Quest 3

#15

Post by postalrat »

FirmwareBurner wrote: post #6
verdverm wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I primarily bought my Q3 as a holdover to the Visor. I use the Immersed app and AR definitely is a great feature when using a virtual desktop setup, for drinking coffee and using a real keyboard. I secondarily bought it as a Q1 upgrade for entertainment. That being said, the AR features still don't hold a candle to the Hololens 2 experience. The hand and environment recognition are still behind, even after 3+ years,…

I recognize there are legit use cases for AR beyond gimmicks, but for that you need GOOD AR, while the Q3 AR feels kind of janky, half baked and screams of cost cutting compromises. They tried to compromise to get a low priced AR headset to the masses, but in the end fucked it up since the headset is neither low priced enough to be an impulse buy for the masses, nor is the AR good enough to satisfy the tech enthusias…

AR could be the kill feature that sells more quests than meta ever hoped for. IMO it's too early to predict what ideas people might have for it.

Re: Quest 2 is outselling Quest 3

#16

Post by nomilk »

For those with either q2 or q3, what do you use it for? Can q3 be used for productivity purposes (e.g virtual office) or is the tech not there yet? I bought a quest 2 and tried boxing and beat saber (both impressive), but the novelty of VR wore off and I haven’t touched it since (i.e. in years). I think a lot of quest 2 owners were similar. Is quest 3 any different?

Re: Quest 2 is outselling Quest 3

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Post by jmcgough »

nomilk wrote: post #16

For those with either q2 or q3, what do you use it for? Can q3 be used for productivity purposes (e.g virtual office) or is the tech not there yet? I bought a quest 2 and tried boxing and beat saber (both impressive), but the novelty of VR wore off and I haven’t touched it since (i.e. in years). I think a lot of quest 2 owners were similar. Is quest 3 any different?

VR Chat is the ultimate VR app. Infinite number of cool things to do and people to meet, lots of nerdy hobbyists who make VR stuff out of passion.

Re: Quest 2 is outselling Quest 3

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Post by gryn »

endisneigh wrote: post #13

I have 4 Q2s (for the fam). The Q3 is better but not enough better. I tried the Vision Pro, and it’s not even close. Someone who actually really cares about this stuff will buy the Vision. I mention that only because the increase in quality really needs to be able to be perceived to justify the increase in price. Honestly think the Vision Pro visual fidelity and UX is 10X. I’m curious how the Q2+Q3 compares with the…

but they are not even in the same price bracket, if I'm considering the vision pro (3.5k ?) then my comparison would be against the new varjo xr-4 releases that are around 4k (or 10k for the varifocal lenses version).

Re: Quest 2 is outselling Quest 3

#19

Post by antiterra »

FirmwareBurner wrote: post #3

Q2 owner here: I actually want to upgrade to Q3 since the Fresnel lenses on the Q2 are kind of crappy producing tonnes of god-rays, and the 3 step IPD adjustment is far too rudimentary and limited in range(it goes up to 68mm while my eyes are 71mm) because of which, to my eyes, it looks like ass in some scenes. Q3 lenses and flexible IPD should solve all those issues. Devil's advocate take: Unlike cheap handheld gami…

I have never seen people so excited for VR/AR as they have been by the in-device recording of AR views. Generally everyone is careful to clarify that the real experience is full of warping and distortion, but people are genuinely enjoying even that poor version of what is to come.

VR gaming is maybe not the killer app that VR fans think it is, only Beat Saber has really come close. A lot of us genuinely tried to get into VR gaming (for my part I’ve owned: DK2, Rift, GearVR, Rift S, Quest, Quest 2) but decided 2D gaming is better in the current state of things.

Re: Quest 2 is outselling Quest 3

#20

Post by doctoboggan »

jmcgough wrote: post #17
nomilk wrote: post #16

For those with either q2 or q3, what do you use it for? Can q3 be used for productivity purposes (e.g virtual office) or is the tech not there yet? I bought a quest 2 and tried boxing and beat saber (both impressive), but the novelty of VR wore off and I haven’t touched it since (i.e. in years). I think a lot of quest 2 owners were similar. Is quest 3 any different?

VR Chat is the ultimate VR app. Infinite number of cool things to do and people to meet, lots of nerdy hobbyists who make VR stuff out of passion.

I recently purchased a Quest 3 and have tried a bit of VR Chat. Any pointers on how to get the most out of it?
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